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Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by anigbrowl »

Periodic wrote: post #115
archangel_one wrote: post #74

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I think some of the points are valid; there may be solutions but they are so obscure that people obviously never discover them. I've had a MBP for nearly a year now and never knew that Fn+Left/Right substituted for Home/End (thanks for the tip, btw). I can't see myself guessing Cmd+Shift+G to type paths into Finder either... They're valid solutions but normally Linux is (not unjustifiably) castigated for requiring ob…

One handy thing is that because OS X uses Command for most of its window-management and application hot-keys, control + key is almost always unmasked by the application. Why is this important? Control-A and Control-E work in almost any text input! They work in Adium, they work in Chrome for the location bar and this textarea, and I'm sure many others. I was pleasantly surprised because the Windows/Linux systems tend…

I was pleasantly surprised because the Windows/Linux systems tend to mask Control-A for select-all.

Linux maybe. I have never had it fail in windows and think you may be misremembering how it works.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by anjc »

ugh wrote: post #140
jasonkester wrote: post #133

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Are you sure? On a windows box, there's a key with "End" written on it. Much more guessable than fn+right arrow.

End? What does that mean? Does it quit the current app? Does it shutdown? I’m really confused! And this strange Home key, what’s that for? Going to my start page? Showing the desktop? Start menu? What’s going on?!

I think learning that 'end' means 'end of document' is a lot more intuitive than fn+right.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by vegai »

ConstantineXVI wrote: post #61
vegai wrote: post #49

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But... nobody can guarantee that. Have you never used paid software? I mean sure, I can take your money. I can promise you things. So what? And why the hell was I downmodded for asking a legit question? Is this place falling into reddit land?

Yes they can. They can focus on a specific model, even work directly with the OEM (or be the OEM), put a $60 price tag on the box, and have a warranty that says "We guarantee that this Linux distro will work out of the box on model X; we'll keep all the software updated for a year; you can call us if it breaks; and we'll refund you if we can't help." If no one can make that sort of guarantee for money; why should I e…

Anyone buying that would be a complete idiot.

So yes, it might work.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by philwelch »

dhughes wrote: post #45
watmough wrote: post #35

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You can't blame Lion for not having a delete key! It's a hardware choice. Add a wired USB keyboard (I use the long Apple one) and there's a perfectly functional delete key, right there! What you can blame Lion for, is the fact that Xcode4 can't even scroll a sodding code window at repeat rate. Quad-core and discrete graphics, utterly ridiculous.

Yes true it's a hardware issue not OS and yes that's one option to use an external keyboard but I don't want to drag an external keyboard around with me otherwise I wouldn't have bought a laptop. The lack of a delete key actually labeled "delete" (not backspace labeled "delete") just seems to be a glaring error along with no separate number keypad. More thought went into making it look pretty than to make it useful.…

> The lack of a delete key actually labeled "delete" (not backspace labeled "delete")

It's not a "glaring error" that it isn't labeled exactly like a PC. Apple keyboards have labeled the keys "delete" and "return" instead of "backspace" and "enter" since probably before the days that IBM labeled them "backspace" and "enter".

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by vegai »

There has already been a vastly simpler system that predates OS X: Linux or BSD combined with X11 and an arbitrary window manager. Just stay away from anything that calls itself a "desktop environment" and you should be fine.

Personal recommendation: http://www.archlinux.org & http://awesome.naquadah.org/ -- a nice compromise between easy configurability and the "suckless" simplicity mentality.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by flomo »

pat2man wrote: post #124

When Apple release System 7 in 1991 people everywhere started complaining about the new changes and how it was worse than System 6. For instance it required a hard drive and couldn't boot off a floppy. Meanwhile the end users adopted it imediately and never looked back. Most of the complaints in the article are about features that we as developers love but that end users could care less about. As a developer I love g…

System 7 was definitely slower on the most common hardware of the day (1MB toaster macs). My college had entire labs of machines stuck on 6.0.8 for a long time afterwards.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by kamechan »

kisielk wrote: post #204
js2 wrote: post #75

Re: "maximize" button that is being complained about in this thread. It's not a maximize button, it's a zoom button, and while I don't like its behavior, it's always been this way in OS X. From the current HIG: Your application determines the initial size and position of a window, which is called the standard state. If the user changes a window’s size or location by at least 7 points, the new size and location is the…

Who cares about the justification. The major problem with it is that the behaviour is unpredictable. You have no idea what is going to happen when you push that button for a given app. In some apps, they'll go full screen. A browser might resize to fit the current web page. iTunes actually shrinks down to a mini control window. So now in order to use this button if a useful manner the user has to remember exactly wha…

i tend not to use it for this very reason. i've wished, on more than one occasion, that a user could customize this action to be a "maximize vertically", as one could in gnome2. maybe i'm one of the few who actually used this, as it seems to have been phased out in gnome3. but i found it very useful.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by anjc »

darrenkopp wrote: post #220
ugh wrote: post #140

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End? What does that mean? Does it quit the current app? Does it shutdown? I’m really confused! And this strange Home key, what’s that for? Going to my start page? Showing the desktop? Start menu? What’s going on?!

It's pretty easy to push a key and find out what it does compared to imagining a key combination and trying to figure if that key combination even does anything

Not only that but, as a new mac user, it seems like there are several common keystroke types. Fn+x, ctrl+x, alt+x, cmd+x, cmd+shift+x; maybe there's some logic behind it but i can't find any. It seems like the windows system is a bit more understandable.

(if there's something obvious that i'm missing someone please tell me!)

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