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Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by hmottestad »

vertr wrote: post #123
js2 wrote: post #75

Re: "maximize" button that is being complained about in this thread. It's not a maximize button, it's a zoom button, and while I don't like its behavior, it's always been this way in OS X. From the current HIG: Your application determines the initial size and position of a window, which is called the standard state. If the user changes a window’s size or location by at least 7 points, the new size and location is the…

Hold shift while clicking the zoom button to maximize the window. Edit: in Chrome only.

I'm using Lion and that does nothing in Finder or in Safari.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by vertr »

dhughes wrote: post #29
rbanffy wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you pick your PC carefully with the purpose of breaking Linux, it mostly works out of the box. That said, installing Linux on a Mac seems offensive, like replacing the dashboard of a Maybach with the one of a race car. Macs are a beautifully designed combination of hardware and software that may work for you. Or not. I like Lion better than Snow Leopard, but neither works for me for work. Casual browsing and p…

Like a teenager before a date Mac seems to be entirely about looks, oh everything works well both OS and hardware but sometimes it seems looks come before function. No separate delete or backspace keys, no multiple desktops, breathtakingly expensive hardware and software, awkward layout of files in the GUI, closing apps frustrating X doesn't close the app it minimizes it but you also have a minimize button (??), am I…

On the small apple keyboards pressing function-delete will act the same as a Windows delete key.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by jasonkester »

ugh wrote: post #119
archangel_one wrote: post #74

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I think some of the points are valid; there may be solutions but they are so obscure that people obviously never discover them. I've had a MBP for nearly a year now and never knew that Fn+Left/Right substituted for Home/End (thanks for the tip, btw). I can't see myself guessing Cmd+Shift+G to type paths into Finder either... They're valid solutions but normally Linux is (not unjustifiably) castigated for requiring ob…

It’s no less obscure than other operating systems in this regard. I can’t see the difference.

Are you sure? On a windows box, there's a key with "End" written on it. Much more guessable than fn+right arrow.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by ugh »

mgkimsal wrote: post #129
ugh wrote: post #63

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OS X obviously isn’t for you. OS X doesn’t have some features you would like it to have or you need. Looking at the features you are missing it doesn’t seem like they are central for most users. If a feature is not there you simply can’t use the OS. That’s fair enough. It just doesn’t seem like that’s really a problem OS X has. Especially when you are coming from a different background it also can be hard to understa…

Alt-Arrows - is that a Lion thing? Opening up a stock iterm, and hitting... hrm... well "alt" is above the 'option' label, so I'm not sure how to invoke that. option arrows don't move by word. fn+option (which I'd assume give me 'alt' mode) doesn't work. What's the magic invocation to make that happen? Or is it Lion only? (snow leopard here).

I’m sorry, the German keyboard confused me – there the option key is labeled alt. You can replace every Alt in my comment with Option.

I’m not sure whether that’s new (I think other shortcuts for moving from word to word were also already commented on around here) but when I fire up Terminal in Lion I can move from word to word by pressing Option-Arrow-left or Option-Arrow-right.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by [deleted] »

vertr wrote: post #123
js2 wrote: post #75

Re: "maximize" button that is being complained about in this thread. It's not a maximize button, it's a zoom button, and while I don't like its behavior, it's always been this way in OS X. From the current HIG: Your application determines the initial size and position of a window, which is called the standard state. If the user changes a window’s size or location by at least 7 points, the new size and location is the…

Hold shift while clicking the zoom button to maximize the window. Edit: in Chrome only.

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Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by vertr »

hmottestad wrote: post #131
vertr wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hold shift while clicking the zoom button to maximize the window. Edit: in Chrome only.

I'm using Lion and that does nothing in Finder or in Safari.

Right you are. It works in Chrome for me. I guess most apps don't have it.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by hamrickdavid »

vertr wrote: post #123
js2 wrote: post #75

Re: "maximize" button that is being complained about in this thread. It's not a maximize button, it's a zoom button, and while I don't like its behavior, it's always been this way in OS X. From the current HIG: Your application determines the initial size and position of a window, which is called the standard state. If the user changes a window’s size or location by at least 7 points, the new size and location is the…

Hold shift while clicking the zoom button to maximize the window. Edit: in Chrome only.

Works for chrome. Doesn't work for Safari or Finder.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by ugh »

cjfont wrote: post #130
ugh wrote: post #71

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Save as doesn’t make sense if the app auto-saves.

Sure it does, it just auto-saves to whatever your last "Save As" was.

It’s possible to do but it would confuse. It doesn’t make sense conceptually.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by WiseWeasel »

Dejital wrote: post #11

Tim has issues with one application, but blames the entire operating system. Is this fair? Further, the trash bin problem of not having an "Ignore All" button has always been around. That does not mean the operating system is becoming worse , just that an age old frustration (albeit a very obscure one) is still around. I have some issues with Lion, but they are grounded primarily in my complete satisfaction with Snow…

Reading his rant, I just couldn't understand why he wouldn't simply fire up the terminal and issue a quick 'sudo rm -rf /path/to/mail/*' command. Deleting huge numbers of recently used files with the trash has always been hit-or-miss. This is Tim O'Reilly we're talking about here; he should know better.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by ugh »

jasonkester wrote: post #133
ugh wrote: post #119

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It’s no less obscure than other operating systems in this regard. I can’t see the difference.

Are you sure? On a windows box, there's a key with "End" written on it. Much more guessable than fn+right arrow.

End? What does that mean? Does it quit the current app? Does it shutdown? I’m really confused! And this strange Home key, what’s that for? Going to my start page? Showing the desktop? Start menu? What’s going on?!
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