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> how strong are these monkeys? I believe the right question is, how intelligent and distempered are these monkeys? Intelligence > brawn Strength is mostly immaterial once I (as a hypothetical monkey) understand that I can use my agility to rip your eyeballs from their sockets, which then effectively removes your ability to pose a threat to me.
That's a silly way to think about it, strength just gives you more tools that you can work with if you're intelligent. If you aren't strong enough to rip eyeballs from sockets, how does being intelligent enough to know you can do that help you?
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> Also the deadliest North American wildlife is the deer Actually, the deadliest North American wildlife is the mosquito.
Are they particularly deadly in NA? I’m not downplaying the disease spread by mosquitoes, but I would have imagined that they’re significantly deadlier in less developed continents and that then acesss and quality of healthcare would make them less so in North America.
Depends on what you consider North America. Mexico down to Panama still have significant mosquito-borne illness and none of the access and quality of healthcare we enjoy in US/CA.
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I believe they are aggressive only to the extent of defending their territory or defending their pups. In fact, all carnivorous animals can be aggressive. They are not aggressive like how a lion or tiger is to humans. Their main diet consist of fish, invertebrate and shellfish.
Having dived with pacific otters, they are just plain aggressive. They seemed to genuinely just enjoy being mean. Sea lions, on the other hand, are super pleasant and playful.
Sea otters are known to be more aggressive than river otters but I do not think they view humans as preys. It is probably a territorial or mating reason in your case.
I have read different reports of what the OP mentioned. The official statement by the park is that he (as reported to them by himself) ran through the pack of otters because of poor visibility (early morning) and tried to get them to do something about the otters. That is quite different from what the OP claims.
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Take into consideration though that these minks were bred specifically to kill them for their skin. The end outcome was a ban on mink farms which is a pretty positive one for animal rights. I also think the e culling of all those minks was horrible but it's not as black and white as that.
> Take into consideration though that these minks were bred specifically to kill them for their skin. Is that not much more 'evil', to breed something specifically to kill it for its skin? If it's not, then why is it not allowed to be done by the same species to itself?
Probably yes. I think both are pretty bad. I eat pretty much vegetarian for this reason (not entirely because here in Spain it's impossible to be totally vegetarian especially when you go out for dinner)
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I am not sure how you reverse body slam someone.
Judo and other throwing-style martial arts could be described as using "reverse body slams".
The stronger you are compared to your opponent the better Judo works not worse. The martial arts that use the opponents strength depend on the "opponent" being compliant.
Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#236If you are in doubt about this being revenge, because you think revenge is exclusively a human behavior, then have a look at the Gombe Chimpanzee War [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War
People have this funny idea that war is a human invention and that nature would be peaceful and quiet without us. But it turns out ants and termites have been at it for probably over 100 million years: https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/why-ants-and-termite...
Thanks for suggesting an interesting research topic!
I found this article comparing how ants and humans wage war to be more insightful : https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/when-it-comes-...
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#237I grew up and studied in a University town in Central India, not far from Majalgaon FTA. I've personally witnessed the rivalry of the monkeys and the pariah dogs. In one particular instance a youngish dog was chasing the monkeys and wouldn't let them get on the ground. The leader of the monkey gang made a sudden move, swooped down and carried the dog pup on the tree and just dropped it from there. The pup survived an…
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#238If you are in doubt about this being revenge, because you think revenge is exclusively a human behavior, then have a look at the Gombe Chimpanzee War [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War
Well that's super interesting. I'm wondering, what does the article mean by the 3 enslaved at the end? I'm not sure what that would mean in the context of chimps
The female apes were forcibly taken as new mates in the tribe.
Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#239If you are in doubt about this being revenge, because you think revenge is exclusively a human behavior, then have a look at the Gombe Chimpanzee War [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War
Chimpanzees are more closely related to humans than they are to monkeys.
Humans are monkeys: there’s no way to draw “monkey” that doesn’t include “ape” in its clade.
But yes — chimps (and bonobos) are our closest relatives.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae#/media/File%3AHomi...
Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#240I grew up and studied in a University town in Central India, not far from Majalgaon FTA. I've personally witnessed the rivalry of the monkeys and the pariah dogs. In one particular instance a youngish dog was chasing the monkeys and wouldn't let them get on the ground. The leader of the monkey gang made a sudden move, swooped down and carried the dog pup on the tree and just dropped it from there. The pup survived an…
Someone could crowdsource a documentary and launch their career with the money it would raise...
I've been reading Mary Roach's new book (Fuzz) that has an interesting chapter on monkeys in India. Because macaques are afraid of langurs, some people would tie up langurs outside their houses for security. This was eventually deemed inhumane but it probably still happens in wealthy enclaves. Nowadays the Parliament building is protected by 40 humans who imitate langurs.