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Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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This is the relevant news I need to stay up to date in the fast moving tech world. Thank you hacker news.

This is about as relevant to most people as the "article" about "x86, X64 Instruction Latency, Memory Latency and Cpuid Dumps" that nobody will read and is yet also on the frontpage today.

HackerNews upvotes 2 kinds of content: interesting content, and content that makes HN readers look smarter than they are. Regardless of their relation to technology.

This one is in the interesting category.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Where does the 4000 figure come from?

The Vedas are supposedly that old

Yes, but (without being a scholar of religion) I had always assumed that Hinduism was far older than its oldest surviving texts, just as Judaism, in some form, is older than whatever year we date the Torah to.

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I remember from a visit in Kenya that the way they control monkeys was to keep shooting the alpha until eventually their next leader forces the group to retreat and leave the human settlements alone.

Wonder how many times this has been done with humans throughout history

Probably taught in the first week at the School of the Americas [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere_Institute_f...

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That's a silly way to think about it, strength just gives you more tools that you can work with if you're intelligent. If you aren't strong enough to rip eyeballs from sockets, how does being intelligent enough to know you can do that help you?

> strength just gives you more tools... I believe the opposite is true. If I'm smart, I will use your strengths against you.

I am not sure how you reverse body slam someone.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Why are people surprised and shocked by this? If a pack of stray dogs killed a human child, we would exterminate them without further thought, and we would call it "animal control." Even when an otherwise protected species like a bear in a national park kills a human, we make an exception and kill that animal.

Um, because it was monkeys that did it, not humans? And humans =/= to monkeys?

It's surprising because (a) we generally consider revenge to be a human emotion, so seeing it in animals is a bit surprising, (b) seeing a coordinated attack between two species that are kind of adjacent on the food chain isn't super common. Killing in the animal world is primarily done for hunting. The monkeys aren't eating the dogs, they're just killing them.

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If it's evil for primates to kill 250 dogs after one primate infant was killed is it evil for primates to kill 17 million minks because they could get a virus and theoretically spread that to primates?

Take into consideration though that these minks were bred specifically to kill them for their skin. The end outcome was a ban on mink farms which is a pretty positive one for animal rights. I also think the e culling of all those minks was horrible but it's not as black and white as that.

> Take into consideration though that these minks were bred specifically to kill them for their skin.

Is that not much more 'evil', to breed something specifically to kill it for its skin? If it's not, then why is it not allowed to be done by the same species to itself?

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I’d like to see these Monkeys try and capture my 54kg (129lb) Doberman. He is ridiculously strong, has broken a few collars and is impossible to move if he decides to stay put.

> I’d like to see these Monkeys try and capture my 54kg (129lb) Doberman.

You're saying you would like to see a pack of monkeys attack your dog? Your post is either internet bravado or an injunction for someone to call and alert animal welfare about your conduct.

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Chimp muscles are stronger than ours but we are often stronger than them in absolute terms because we are bigger (more muscle mass).

We are not stronger than chimps. Our arms certainly aren't.

yes, a chimp could literally rip the arm(s) out of a human without a sweat. 1 chimp arm is roughly equivalent to 2 of the strongest human arms.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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> strength just gives you more tools... I believe the opposite is true. If I'm smart, I will use your strengths against you.

I am not sure how you reverse body slam someone.

Judo and other throwing-style martial arts could be described as using "reverse body slams".

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?

My guess is that in these cases, the humans put themselves into a vulnerable position in pursuit of the monkeys.
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