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Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by danlugo92 » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 3:01 PM UTC

sofixa wrote: post #156

dandare wrote: post #65

> I am a paid Youtube Music subscriber The saying goes that if you don't paid for it then you are the product. So I subscribed to YouTube Music family plan, thinking I won't be the product. But my wife's account will always return an error saying that she is in a different country or something. I tried to reach the support for help but never got any reply. In the end I cancelled the subscription. Google is simply too…

None of Google's shared plans work cross-country - YouTube, Google Play, Stadia, Google One. All of them error, sometimes cryptically ( e.g. "Can't access payment methods"). It should be clearer what the issue is, with clear, concise error messages, but IMHO it's not a bug per se . Different country legislations, copyright, tax codes, prices, etc. etc. make that a complex matter and i see how they wouldn't want to de…

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Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by jacob019 » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 3:01 PM UTC

throwaway82931 wrote: post #28

It's terrifying that the punishments are so draconian (because one false move and you lose access to the entire Google account, and possibly become persona non-grata and lose the ability to create another one even in a company context), it's hard to understand what the rules are, the appeals process generally won't help, and even being a paying customer won't save you. It seems like best practice for any professional…

And use a different account for each google service, firefox containers helps with this.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by sofixa » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 3:02 PM UTC

danlugo92 wrote: post #231

sofixa wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of Google's shared plans work cross-country - YouTube, Google Play, Stadia, Google One. All of them error, sometimes cryptically ( e.g. "Can't access payment methods"). It should be clearer what the issue is, with clear, concise error messages, but IMHO it's not a bug per se . Different country legislations, copyright, tax codes, prices, etc. etc. make that a complex matter and i see how they wouldn't want to de…

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No it doesn't, you'd still need to declare and pay local taxes, and abide by local legislations.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 3:03 PM UTC

EvanAnderson wrote: post #104

giansegato wrote: post #79

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It could be remunerated. Like: pay 100$ to have a human look at your case. You can appeal (and pay) up to 3 times. This would partially solve the scalability problem + provide partial disincentives for scammers and spammers. I would happily pay 100$ to recover my lost Google account. Of course this would in turn create the bad incentive of having Google not create good models. Ideally the law would require to cap pri…

Why is it my problem that a fair moderation process must be cost-effective for Google, et. al.? Edit: Google's profit margins aren't my problem. If they want to be such a big, all-encompassing force in the "digital lives" of individuals they need to be held to account with fair policies for dealing with Customers. If that creates an untenable business for them they can either innovate in a manner that results in a fa…

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Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by sofixa » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 3:03 PM UTC

thijser wrote: post #222

sofixa wrote: post #173

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That's not true, Google has "Google One", where you pay for stuff like Google Drive, and get access to support via chat and phone.

Wow, I didn't even know that and I am a Google One subscriber for extra disk space as well! Started a support chat now, let's see if they can unlock my account.

Good luck! I haven't needed it yet, but all i've heard about it is positive ( rapid response times and they managed to help).

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by reginold » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 3:03 PM UTC

corobo wrote: post #226

reginold wrote: post #146

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https://www.pinata.cloud/ this could be a place to start! makes it easy to upload content and host it on IPFS.

If it's hosted with IPFS what are these folks charging for? Service wise ofc happy to pay for anything that makes my life easier but they appear to be charging by the storage?

I'm wondering that as well so dug into the site.

IPFS is a way to host and distribute files. It's not free. To have files distributed they need to be hosted somewhere. You can do this yourself by hosting an IPFS server at home or in the cloud. On IPFS this is called a "pin". Pinata host and serves your files to pin them on IPFS. That's why their list of services is that of a cloud provider.

From their pricing/plans page (https://www.pinata.cloud/pricing)

Fast Global CDN

100GB bandwidth included per month

Additional bandwidth at $0.05/gb

Unlimited storage at $0.15/gb

Here's a blog article that covers Pinata's primary use case - web3 hosting for NFTs https://medium.com/pinata/the-file-requirements-for-nfts-a20...

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by ThalesX » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 3:04 PM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #151

ThalesX wrote: post #67

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I'm not sure why people are calling this satire. If you want to host a video, make it available through a URI, protect your ownership rights and then make sure it gets hosted for as long as possible, this is a way to do it.

I'm a professional programmer and like....I understand some of those words? If I had to guess, I'd say this is a joke, purely because of how nonsensical it sounds. Host it on what? Pair it with ETH? Like...the cryptocurrency? How does that work? How does that make money? Maybe I'm getting old. Scary world out there.

Also felt it was a scary world till I had the opportunity to read up a bit.

The cryptospace is wild, and web3 is a wild west, but some parts make sense, and they’re a bit awesome!

> Host it on what? Pair it with ETH? Like...the cryptocurrency? How does that work? How does that make money?

You host it in IPFS, which is basically just a bunch of running nodes that store files using a hashing system that results in these identifiers (CID) per file. This CID always reflects the same file, no matter if you store it or I store it or we both store parts of it.

Let’s say I upload my video file, and then send it to you on IPFS so now we both host it.

Then, I decide to NFT it. So I register a contract on the Ethereum blockchain (for which I have to pay in Ethereum, the currency) that points to this CID.

At this point, this particular video, its hash on the IPFS and the ETH blockchain entry under my wallet, give me a distributed right of ownership for those that choose to respect it.

As per how it makes money, I have no idea, it all feels like a giant scam to me. The money aspect is a more cryptobro oriented question than a technical one.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by rodolphoarruda » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 3:05 PM UTC

bambax wrote: post #41

The problem is not the content of the video, crypto or not. The problem is not that YT moderates aggressively (it doesn't do enough IMHO) or even how it moderates. The problem is that there is no serious appeals process, and no third party oversight of moderation decisions. This is true for all the big platforms. How do we fix that, IDK, but probably at the government level.

We may fix this by decentralizing the original source of the content and making the social end, the account used to post/share that content, ephemerous. How can we still build reputation in this model? Making sure the original source is visible and accessible. It all boils down to reputation management, which needs to be re-engineered.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by dspillett » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 3:05 PM UTC

bambax wrote: post #82

101008 wrote: post #53

I know losing a YouTube channel is horrible, especially after you dedicated so much time, effort and money - and for some people it may be a source of income as well. It is totally unfair. But my nightmare in here is that you lose access to your whole Google account and that would devastate me. Not only email access (and thus, access to every service I use because I have my Google account linked to it), but also Goog…

Do not use the cloud as a storage system. Use it as a distribution system only and keep multiple copies of precious data with you, on media that you control. I use Smugmug but if they go out of business today I couldn't care less, not only do I keep copies, I also keep the structure of the galleries and could recreate them elsewhere with little trouble.

> Do not use the cloud as a storage system. Use it as a distribution system only and keep multiple copies of precious data with you, on media that you control.

Also unless you are paying for it Google are not storing the full un-recompressed copies of the photo files from your device, so if you rely on them for backup what you restore when your primary copy is lost/damaged is not the full quality you originally had.

I do have my stuff go up to Google but only for easy access. For backup, I rsync (currently via termux) to home and from there the data is copied elsewhere as part of my offsite/offine backups with everything else I can't reobtain easily if lost/corrupt.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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Post by jacob019 » Mon, Dec 06, 2021, 3:08 PM UTC

101008 wrote: post #53

I know losing a YouTube channel is horrible, especially after you dedicated so much time, effort and money - and for some people it may be a source of income as well. It is totally unfair. But my nightmare in here is that you lose access to your whole Google account and that would devastate me. Not only email access (and thus, access to every service I use because I have my Google account linked to it), but also Goog…

That is why I have completely degoogled my life. Backup your photos ASAP!

I'm using nextcloud as a google photos replacement. It's not quite as smooth as google photos but it works well enough and I control my data. The official app handles auto-upload of my photos. Yaga is a nice android client for viewing the photos on my degoogled phone. The web app works well for that too and there are even sharing features, so I can share an album or photo with friends, family, or whoever. Nextcloud has suitable replacements for notes, drive, docs, contact backup/sync, and more. It's a little bit of effort to set up but totally worth it to control my data and get privacy.

Fastmail is a great paid replacement for gmail. It has calander, notes, and file storage features too.

There are so many cloud storage options, really no excuse to use google drive.

There are other turnkey google photo replacements as well these days, amazon and flickr come to mind. Google has nice apps but it's just not worth being their product, especially since they nerfed the free storage.