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Does anyone have a sense as to when US society will completely eliminate COVID measures? Is it just me or is there no clear exit criteria anymore? This will go on forever without exit criteria.
I think it’s hard to overstate what a big deal this is for science. This is a completely novel molecule that appears effective as an antiviral. This would a huge achievement for the field of drug design, and will hopefully lead to all kinds of great medicine.
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not exactly sure where you live but they are completely gone in most of the country. I live in a solidly blue New England state and I havent seriously thought about Covid for months. been going to packed bars, house parties, restaurants, music festivals, concerts all with no masks
Except now we have a federal government which thinks it knows best and will force medical decisions on you.
You are not forced to take any vaccine, though many (public and private) institutions will require you to do so to participate in their functions (e.g. attending public school, serving in the military, working in hospitals, etc...).
In any case, the will being applied is that of the people (indirectly) through its (mostly) elected representatives (who could abolish the public health organization any time it chose), not some nefarious government.
Does anyone have a sense as to when US society will completely eliminate COVID measures? Is it just me or is there no clear exit criteria anymore? This will go on forever without exit criteria.
When hospitalization rates are down. In many metro areas the ICU are still full of un-vaccinated COVID patients, which means people with normal emergencies can't get a bed. Thus, COVID precautions are necessary to reduce the rate of infection to levels that do not overwhelm the healthcare system. And all those areas that have "returned to normal" are sending their COVID patients to regions that are still masking beca…
This has been my experience as well. My state is pretty strict overall, but my area of my state is not.
Our hospital has been operating at capacity for 6 months or so, but nobody is talking about it. Because we can just ship to where they have stricter COVID control measures.
We're causing problems for other people because we can't be bothered to be part of society.
It's a joke all around. The entire world. Nihilism is almost impossible to escape right now.
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Soo, kinda like for a vaccine? (And to clarify what I am saying, even though the vaccine does prevent death, there is still considerable push back. Not sure why it will be different for this drug)
Oh I think it will be gladly accepted by unvaccinated folk. The reason being is most unvaccinated people don’t believe it isn’t effective, they don’t like being forced to protect themselves by a bunch of moral busybodies. I just accepted as soon as we saw that covid was spreading so quickly, welp I’m gonna get that. I figured I wouldn’t be that affected by it and wasn’t. Our parents said, well if I get it I get it, a…
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The same antivaxxers who ”refuse to take experiemental drugs from big pharma Pfizer” will gobble this pill down no questions asked. Which just proves, the anti-vaxxer moment is based on the primitive instinct of ”pain and needles=bad” Being scared of vaccines should be considered the same thing as having a fear of dentists. Or pets hating going to the vet.
Do open random executables that you get in your email? If not, why not?
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not exactly sure where you live but they are completely gone in most of the country. I live in a solidly blue New England state and I havent seriously thought about Covid for months. been going to packed bars, house parties, restaurants, music festivals, concerts all with no masks
Except now we have a federal government which thinks it knows best and will force medical decisions on you.
> All 50 states (plus the District of Columbia) mandate diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough), polio, measles, rubella and chickenpox. In addition, every state except Iowa mandates immunization against mumps.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/08/states-have...
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> Real science does have a price. I'm not following. Are you under the impression that the COVID-19 vaccine trials weren't similarly double blinded?
No, I am talking about ‘scientists’ telling others that Covid-19 is magically limited to a 1.5m or 6 feet circle (depending in which country you live). Or that they have to be really careful outside, and that it’s more safe to not go for a walk and fatten up in front of the TV. Or that ‘covid 0’ is a valid policy and that if it doesn’t work it is the fault of this week’s scapegoat. And then censoring anyone who would…
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That it's unethical to continue giving half the participants a placebo makes sense. I am curious though: do they ever continue with the trial, with the patients on the actual drug? Might that be useful for monitoring rare-ish side effects, even if the drug is highly effective?
They almost always do this as an approval requirement.
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> Side effects don't have to happen in the next 6 months. If this is a molecule with a short half-life that is broken down and expelled by the body, it isn't going to have random side effects that show up months in the future.
Unless it were to change something in the body while it was still active, and those changes didn't show any signs for a long time. I'm just playing devil's advocate, but it doesn't seem impossible.