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But that's just it, there's less than a 2% chance of dying even if you get COVID.
A 2% chance of death is actually very high risk for most people. Obviously with a name like dontcare007 I'm sure you've a huge appetite for risk that others don't.
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#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the consequence of not taking it is death, I think people would run to the front of the queue, though.
Soo, kinda like for a vaccine? (And to clarify what I am saying, even though the vaccine does prevent death, there is still considerable push back. Not sure why it will be different for this drug)
I just accepted as soon as we saw that covid was spreading so quickly, welp I’m gonna get that. I figured I wouldn’t be that affected by it and wasn’t.
Our parents said, well if I get it I get it, and if I die, I die, now let me see my grandkids. When the vaccine came out they were like sweet I’ll get it, can we stop these stupid mask wearing and social distancing crap. No, we can’t. So now us younger folk who aren’t afraid of covid aren’t getting vaccinated because we’re being forced to, and they’re going to keep up all the stupid rules like wearing masks everywhere anyways.
An anti viral drug that is this effective gives even less reason to have any mandates around vaccines, so unvaccinated people will cheer this.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
But if that were an iron truth, wouldn't people be comfortable with GMOs?
GMO’s is emotional, largely based on the public image around the word ”mutant” meaning a hulk like green person that was irradiated by a James Bond villain etc
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/feb/12/monsanto...
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#194> This is a completely novel molecule... Then do we understand the risk profile of this thing? That sounds like the sort of innovation that people would want to be at the back of the queue for. Side effects don't have to happen in the next 6 months.
I'm not touching any Pfizer drugs with a 10 foot pole. I guess I'm one of the few actually wise humans left.
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#195Does anyone have a sense as to when US society will completely eliminate COVID measures? Is it just me or is there no clear exit criteria anymore? This will go on forever without exit criteria.
I live in Kansas and have basically forgotten COVID is a thing. The people who wanted to get vaccinated like me have and those who haven’t, haven’t. Nobody asks about it and no businesses have any sort of mask requirements. Half of the people at the grocery store wear masks and the other half don’t. Everyone seems to be getting along. Next door in Kansas City Missouri I stopped at a gas station and an employee was sh…
Re: Pfizer's oral Covid-19 antiviral cuts hospitalization, death by 85%
#196Does anyone have a sense as to when US society will completely eliminate COVID measures? Is it just me or is there no clear exit criteria anymore? This will go on forever without exit criteria.
I live in Kansas and have basically forgotten COVID is a thing. The people who wanted to get vaccinated like me have and those who haven’t, haven’t. Nobody asks about it and no businesses have any sort of mask requirements. Half of the people at the grocery store wear masks and the other half don’t. Everyone seems to be getting along. Next door in Kansas City Missouri I stopped at a gas station and an employee was sh…
No, 5 miles means you have a different government with a different policy response. (The difference itself doesn't justify either side.)
That's just inherent in the existence of political borders.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the consequence of not taking it is death, I think people would run to the front of the queue, though.
But that's just it, there's less than a 2% chance of dying even if you get COVID.
At the start of pandemic we could have hoped that it will pass in half a year, in a year or so. Now we know that it is probably here to stay.
So eventually you will get COVID.
Depending on how long has passed after your vaccine, what variation of virus you will get, how old you are and etc will depend if it is more like 5% or 1% or so.
In my office I have 200 or so colleagues. Imagine having 4-5 funerals at the company because of this illness.
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#198> This is a completely novel molecule... Then do we understand the risk profile of this thing? That sounds like the sort of innovation that people would want to be at the back of the queue for. Side effects don't have to happen in the next 6 months.
I'm not touching any Pfizer drugs with a 10 foot pole. I guess I'm one of the few actually wise humans left.
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#199We had reports of people who wanted to take weird-ass drugs-of-the-day just to refuse getting vaccinated. And screaming "conspiracy" when their efficacy was not confirmed to be as high as they expected. Good that we have something that actually works, bad that some assholes will use it as an excuse not to get vaxxed, completely missing the point (among others, trying to prevent something worse than Delta).
Genuine question: is it necessary to get vaxxed if - all else held the same - the cost is not significantly higher for the antiviral? Wouldn't that cut the risk down so significantly that we can safely say, "Vaccinate if you're at-risk for your own protection, and have negligible risk otherwise"? This changes the entire risk calculation.
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#200Does anyone have a sense as to when US society will completely eliminate COVID measures? Is it just me or is there no clear exit criteria anymore? This will go on forever without exit criteria.
It seems like we are experiencing a very slow and gradual offramp from the restrictions, rather than something that will have a clearly defined endpoint. 2021 is already "mostly normal", for me. I hope sometime in 2022 we will be back to "100% normal", but I'm not confident.
When it's absolutely unbearable for healthcare system, government also introduces soft lockdown where restaurants / cafes / public places are closed. Then everything goes back to "normal".
I really don't see how it can be 100% normal next year. At least in here.