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Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by conradfr »

cm2187 wrote: post #205
turbinerneiter wrote: post #15

There is a German movie about the system that is used to gather TV ratings. It's a special box that some users get which reports what they are watching. Small sample size goes into a big statistic (not sure how accurate the portrayal of the system in the movie is). These boxes are given to the people who pay the German public TV fee, which excludes i.e. students (they don't have to pay) and some other groups. This gr…

Don't modern internet-connected TV boxes snitch on what people are watching? Surely we don't need a sampling anymore? Just thinking that the elderly population is probably the least likely to use those boxes (though I am not even sure of that), whereas they constitute the (dying) core of traditional TV viewership.

You know a connected TV / set-top box is on a channel but you don't know how many / which persons in the house is in front of it.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by htns »

Omniusaspirer wrote: post #87
slaw wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Android you can use Firefox + uBlock Origin.

Add Blokada + Newpipe to the mix as well.

I don't recall ever having heard about Blokada before, but looking it up now it doesn't seem recommended: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/merge_requests/8536

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by Lev1a »

zibzab wrote: post #213
slaw wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Android you can use Firefox + uBlock Origin.

And uMatirx, but Firefox put stop to that one.

Pretty sure Firefox did no such thing, instead IIRC the developer (gorhill) of both addons (uMatrix and uBO) realized that uMatrix was pretty much redundant given the options available in uBO and thus archived uMatrix.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by cookie_monsta »

jokoon wrote: post #49

Are there relevant studies on the effectiveness of advertising? I remember spotting such study. I still wonder if advertising is always worth spending on, beacuse google and facebook make a big amount of money with it, but I'm still skeptical when I see the actual amount of people "engaging" in ads, when you see how much it actually costs.

The old saw is that 50% of advertising works, it's just that nobody knows which 50%

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by Dah00n »

tmslnz wrote: post #200
thinkingemote wrote: post #58

One of the reasons for mobile apps is that adblocking is disabled. Explains why Reddit promotes it so much. Similarly, wrapping websites like Discord or Slack in Electron also gives the website owners full telemetry and tracking that they can't get in a tech savvy browser. Would an always on VPN, a remote pihole be the only way for privacy?

I found NextDNS to be relatively convenient and easy to set up even for a lay audience. Definitely easier than a PiHole or a custom `dnsmasq` setup, and it offers mobile configuration client apps. What I do not know is if it will work also when apps begin using DNS over HTTPS… I suppose not?

Unless they provide a VPN it is only blocking the not-so-bad-actors. Everyone else use hardcoded DNS IPs. If you look at traffic from an Android phone you will get lots of DNS requests to Google DNS no matter if you use NextDNS or not. If you only provide one (primary) DNS IP in android 8.8.8 8 (Google DNS) will even be used by default together with your DNS provider. Same is going on in iOS. If they do provide a VPN then it isn't really for a lay audience IMO but it is the only thing that isn't like pissing in the wind.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

turbinerneiter wrote: post #154
Freak_NL wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you might have the meaning of 'i.e.' ( that is, namely ) confused with 'e.g.' ( for example ).

Thank you very much, I am proud to say that I did this wrong for at least 10 years :D Thanks!

There is a shortcut to remember this: 'e.g.' for 'example given' (and therefore, 'i.e.' for 'that is').

('E.g.' doesn't really mean 'example given' in English - it means 'exempli gratia' in Latin. But it's a useful mnemonic.)

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by cookie_monsta »

scotty79 wrote: post #164

How do you deal with "please disable adblocker" messages? I found them way more annoying than the ads themselves.

Strange, but I haven't seen one lately that actually blocks you. Clicking outside of the modal tends to make them disappear.

Could be that I am visiting less annoying websites these days though...

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by yissp »

conradfr wrote: post #231
cm2187 wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't modern internet-connected TV boxes snitch on what people are watching? Surely we don't need a sampling anymore? Just thinking that the elderly population is probably the least likely to use those boxes (though I am not even sure of that), whereas they constitute the (dying) core of traditional TV viewership.

You know a connected TV / set-top box is on a channel but you don't know how many / which persons in the house is in front of it.

How long until they start putting cameras in them and doing facial recognition?
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