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Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by Semaphor »

turbinerneiter wrote: post #15

There is a German movie about the system that is used to gather TV ratings. It's a special box that some users get which reports what they are watching. Small sample size goes into a big statistic (not sure how accurate the portrayal of the system in the movie is). These boxes are given to the people who pay the German public TV fee, which excludes i.e. students (they don't have to pay) and some other groups. This gr…

> which excludes i.e. students (they don't have to pay)

That is incorrect, they do have to pay (once per household). But if you get BAFÖG (student loan/social benefit mix that require you and your parents to be below a certain income bracket), you don’t.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by aomobile »

piaste wrote: post #33
aomobile wrote: post #13

I surf in private mode. A super simple solution for all your tracking protection needs people. It boggles my mind how this comes up again and again yet we have private browsing since when? The 90s? Don’t be lazy - that’s the real reason, isn’t it? Having to login again..

You do know that fingerprinting is a thing, right? Private browsing is designed to keep your local device clean of your tracks, not the wider web. At all. Telling Facebook "hello, I am visiting baddragon.com from Mozilla Firefox 63.1 on Obscure Linux in Podunk, Saskatchewan, population 32" is barely an improvement over telling them "hello I am John Q. Smith and I am visiting baddragon.com". And of course, private bro…

I use a generic iPhone without any mods

And yeah probably need to use windows not tabs on desktop. On iPhone each tab wouldn’t see that another is logged in though

(Otherwise yes good to be aware of fingerprinting I agree with you)

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by superasn »

That's why I prefer goaccess(1) over any other tool that uses client side Javascript.

It's basically a real time website log analyser which gives you enough information to know whats happening on your website but doesn't require any pesky Javascript etc to do it.

Also since it is works by analysing your log files it can never be blocked.

(1) https://rt.goaccess.io/?20210826211303

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by scrollaway »

divbzero wrote: post #29
erdii wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean something like AdNauseam? https://adnauseam.io/ Edit: it's an adblocker that is supposed to click on EVERY ad that it blocks.

What GP describes would be stronger than AdNauseum. Instead of sending clicks indiscriminately for every ad, you would send clicks for high quality content.

That'd just end up costing the high quality content providers money. Ads wouldn't just get cheaper for them.

On the contrary, clicking only on trash, and having the high quality content have a much higher signal-to-noise ratio would have the desired effect.

Maybe.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by scrollaway »

superasn wrote: post #45

That's why I prefer goaccess(1) over any other tool that uses client side Javascript. It's basically a real time website log analyser which gives you enough information to know whats happening on your website but doesn't require any pesky Javascript etc to do it. Also since it is works by analysing your log files it can never be blocked. (1) https://rt.goaccess.io/?20210826211303

By nature it won't filter out bots, however.

One of my clients' website traffic is composed of over 75% bot traffic. Server-side logs are unusable for anything other than site performance.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by jokoon »

Are there relevant studies on the effectiveness of advertising?

I remember spotting such study.

I still wonder if advertising is always worth spending on, beacuse google and facebook make a big amount of money with it, but I'm still skeptical when I see the actual amount of people "engaging" in ads, when you see how much it actually costs.

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