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Sorry to hear it's been a frustrating experience. I'm a PM for Confluence Cloud and we're always trying to make it better. Would you be willing to share more specifics, such as: - Pages with content X are the slowest - Trying to do A/B/C is annoyingly slow - etc ?
Surely you have metrics?
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I agree. this is a jump-the-shark move. I've worked with confluence and jira and they are not as good as other products - but we can put any kind of confidential data in them. Everybody likes sharepoint/google docs/slack way better.
Sharepoint?
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I agree. this is a jump-the-shark move. I've worked with confluence and jira and they are not as good as other products - but we can put any kind of confidential data in them. Everybody likes sharepoint/google docs/slack way better.
I feel like SharePoint and Google Docs are fundamentally different products that Confluence. Looking for a Confluence competitor with permissions, version tracking, templates, and search but don't feel like I have found a good alternative.
We basically use confluence like a wiki, but it's abnormally hard to put info into it.
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TFS is the self-hosted predecessor to Azure DevOps and it absolutely sucks compared to JIRA.
>"absolutely sucks compared to JIRA" Congratulations, according to Google you are the first person on the internet ever to use that phrase. Indeed only the second ever to string the last four of those words together.
> There are two kinds of programming languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses.
JIRA is the C++ of project management software. It works. It has worked forever. It is easy to shoot yourself in the foot but a savvy operator can't be beat. It's unwieldy at first but gives you all the power to build a really sophisticated and efficient process.
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People are spoiled. JIRA sucks, but it sucks compared to more lightweight tools and the modern aesthetic It outperforms previous tracking tools like bugzilla, trac, or those proprietary piles of crap like the "Rational" tools
Can you give me some examples of tools that are better? Genuinely curious. I've used JIRA at multiple workplaces and really enjoy it. I like Github issues and Trello for my personal task/issue tracking but I don't think they're suitable for more complex projects.
In this thread there's people saying that inability to host on prem is an absolute blocker for them, for others they have zero problems with their data being SaaS-hosted. Some people need deep analytics to measure how their team is doing and they can meet deliverables, and some people could care less. Some people have 10+ workflow stages with tons of rules, some people are fine with Todo / in progress / done.
If you have a small team and dont really care about reporting, Trello is probably a great option for you.
If you want reporting, but are willing to work with a somewhat prescribed workflow / process, across a few teams at most, clubhouse or pivotal tracker are great.
If you need full control and flexibility, and are willing to give up some ease of use and speed, JIRA probably is your best bet.
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How can you be worse than JIRA? Thats almost impressive.
My understanding of Jira is that it by itself does not suck but it bends over backwards for asinine “business processes” so it is difficult to find an implementation in the wild that does not suck.
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How can you be worse than JIRA? Thats almost impressive.
What's wrong with JIRA? If it is about the usage of it within some orgs, I don't know if it is the tool or culture. I have seen some people fawning over tools like Asana but in my usage I just found it fancier and slower than Jira. Personally, as a developer I find GitHub issues to be good enough.
Why can’t Atlassian licence their private docker images and allow companies to host things in their private cloud?
Like why isn’t paying for docker images with k8s yaml files that you can host on your own cluster a thing ?
I would pay for that.
What are their biggest products?
Jira is amongst the most popular workflow / ticketing systems. Probably number one. Bitbucket is top 3 git hosts. Confluence is one of the best wiki/knowledge base products. They also have some other products I’m less familiar with... but they are pretty big.