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Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Affinity Photo or Pixelmator Pro are great replacements for Photoshop. Resolve and Final Cut are much better than Premiere. I'm still looking for a replacement for After Effects and Illustrator though. I've heard Affinity Publisher is a great InDesign replacement although I've never used it.

Inkscape is a decent replacement for Illustrator, at least in my experience.

Inkscape is great but not if you are working a lot in CMYK.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to worry about that BS if you use free software alternatives either. Plus you get to contribute to an alternative ecosystem that is also a lawful and moral alternative (Because piracy is both illegal and immoral in many circles.)

How do you contribute by using free software? You contribute if you give something, mainly coding or money.

You already contribute by growing the community. Software benefits from network effects. E.g. a large hurdle for Libreoffice adoption is the fact that many documents are in the MS proprietary formats. Messengers like Signal or Telegram are in the same boat. As the community grows, the chance increases for someone to contribute by coding or money, or hiring the lead devs for support contracts. It doesn't have to be you, but if you (and others) hadn't used the software before them, that person might not have used it in the first place.

Yes, you can increase your value to the project thousandfold with more direct contributions like coding, bugfixes, donations, community work, etc, but already being part of the community is of help.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also detest the subscription as I rarely update and don't care about new features. It compares really poorly too with the other key piece of software I use - DaVinci Resolve. Resolve has an incredibly good free version and then the paid upgrade is a single payment.

An observation I've made is that DaVinci Resolve seems to be a more technically capable still image editing tool than Adobe Lightroom, despite being designed for video colour grading instead of photography. For example, Lightroom does not allow custom colour spaces for the output, they're restricted to a fixed list of baked-in ICC profiles. The only option is to export in the large ProPhoto space and then externally…

Adobe stagnation is not surprising given that they've switched to a subscription model.

Perpetual licensing means that software vendors are essentially competing with the previous versions of their own products and have to provide compelling improvements to their customers for them to upgrade. Ongoing revenue, and with it, vendor survival, depends on continual improvements.

In contrast, subscription models combined with cloud-based vendor lock-in allow software vendors to extract economic rents from their victims indefinitely. There are no previous versions to compete against and victims must pay in perpetuity to access their own data. Vendors get paid without needing to do work, so they do no work, make no improvements, and reap disproportionate profits.

Software subscriptions are a perfect example of rent seeking, with all that implies about the relationship between vendor and victim and the prospects for ongoing product improvements.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

I recently signed up for adobe CC to test out premiere for some video editing work (side note, Final Cut is better) and instead of inputting a real card I used a privacy.com one. When I decided I didn't want it, I just disabled the privacy card. I only have to deal with a few annoying emails from adobe. I didn't even bother trying to cancel. Reading your comment makes me realize how smart that was.

For those not in the USA and with a Revolut card, you can activate a virtual card in the app, register with and then dispose of.

I did this for the free month of linkedn gold or whatever its called.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

I recently signed up for adobe CC to test out premiere for some video editing work (side note, Final Cut is better) and instead of inputting a real card I used a privacy.com one. When I decided I didn't want it, I just disabled the privacy card. I only have to deal with a few annoying emails from adobe. I didn't even bother trying to cancel. Reading your comment makes me realize how smart that was.

> side note, Final Cut is better

For anyone not doing professional video editing work I can definitely recommend DaVinci Resolve. The basic version is completely free and is extremely powerful.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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post #61

Affinity Photo or Pixelmator Pro are great replacements for Photoshop. Resolve and Final Cut are much better than Premiere. I'm still looking for a replacement for After Effects and Illustrator though. I've heard Affinity Publisher is a great InDesign replacement although I've never used it.

Depending on what you need Blender can be a replacement for After Effects. Blender can also replace Premiere so then you will have one workflow in the same program.

InspirationTuts has a nice comparison of Blender, After FX and Nuke which you might find interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3jArcnGr3E

As a replacement for InDesign I used Scribus a lot. It has some unpolished edges but gets the job done. It includes industry standard PDF exports.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

I went through a similar experience - in fairness Adobe do say that the prices advertised are the monthly fee based on a 12 month subscription, but the way in which it was presented felt like they went out of their way to hide that fact. I then discovered that you can only cancel that 12 month subscription within a short window at the very end of the 12 months. In the end Adobe retired one of the products from Creati…

I also fell for Adobe's "monthly subscription". The only saving grace was that I by chance happened to cancel 11 months in, only to be suprised that I actually was on a yearly subscription. Lost one month of fees, could have been worse.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

CaptureOne as well: https://www.captureone.com/en/ although their interface is not as good.

Another nice thing about Capture One is the speed.

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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In another story, I needed Lightroom for about a week to do some photo work. I started with their subscription for the month and I wanted to let go if I'm done in the first month. While trying to cancel my subscription, I realize I can only do that after paying for the remaining 11 months (rough calculation). With no other option, I paid my penalty and left Adobe for good. I have deleted my 15+ year old Adobe account…

I got rid off Adobe from my life too. The new cloud based Lightroom cannot be installed because the installer itself cannot run on a Mac with the new file system. I could not believe it myself but that is it. The recommended workaround is to go back to the previous filesystem. Do you have any recommendation for Lightroom replacement on a Mac (not iOS)?

Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable

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Does anybody know a good photo management software that's not Lightroom? I don't actually need to do edits to my photos - I need to manage my photo library. Lightroom is not great at it but is passable - is there anything else? What I'm looking for is software that: - Is fast - Is capable of leaving photos where they are ("import-in-place"). - imports photos from card to NAS, organized by time ( year/month/day) - all…

I've been following https://photoprism.org/ for a while (without taking the plunge yet, as I was waiting for the product to mature).
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