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If Google doesn't link to anything anymore, its own traffic may hurt a bit as well.
I think Google would win that game of chicken.
Honestly, I think it might be better if these old news companies die off, and clear space for a newer generation that understands the internet better. We have 20 years years of anecdata now. The old news publishers will never make it online. They see their financials problems as being cause by a moral failing in society: " People do not value quality, and won't pay for it " or somesuch. They see the solutions as lega…
>Honestly, I think it might be better if these old news companies die off, and clear space for a newer generation that understands the internet better. We have 20 years years of anecdata now. The internet isn't some hip new technology only the young people understand. You act as if old media companies must still use rotary phones and manual typewriters, but these companies have changed with the decades and have adapt…
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What are you going to do next time the UK parliament passes a law you don't like? Dissolve the United Kingdom?
Can we? I'd be in favour of dissolving it back to counties with a senate. The south never does anything for us up North.
It was approved on in a committee of the European parliament (for legal matters), which means that now they will enter negotiations with the European Council and then after some time and processes laid out in Art. 293ff TFEU, it will be debated in the European Parliament at some point. So yes, there is still plenty of room and time to discuss this rather unfortunate policy. EDIT: For more info: http://www.europarl.eu…
Is there a list of who voted and how available anywhere?
Having said that, GDPR has actually turned out to be a very well thought through piece of legislation - I actually agree with it's premises largely and the fact we can't take a database dump anymore and have full access to people's personal details is an extremely good thing IMO.
How Facebook are in compliance with it I have no idea as it would seem impossible to justify a lot of their more intrusive/social features.
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I'm in the UK. Conservative MEP did as you said, Labour one sent a bit of a boilerplate that they are considering it, UKIP are of course against it but thats par for the course with them, the green one sent a detailed response and is voting against both art 11 and 13 (the ones I raised issue with).
I have had some very intelligent non-boilerplate replies from Green Party UK MEPs. However, it looks as though we won't have another opportunity to vote for them.
Here's the final document: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL... Searching for "article 11" (the link one) and "article 13" (the filter one) will help you find the relevant paragraphs. They're both very short and fairly easy to understand.
That's a document from 2016. It's only "final" in the sense that it's the final version of the Commission's proposal, I think. https://edri.org/copyright-reform-document-pool/ has a whole lot of different versions of the text, though I don't know how to find out what text was actually voted on today. I expect it to show up at http://www.europarl.europa.eu/oeil/popups/ficheprocedure.do?... though apparently that may t…
Anyway, the PDF you posted has some of the changes already applied so I recommend everybody to read that document instead.
I only read the changes that were proposed to be made to article 13 (on first glance they made it into the version you posted without any further changes) so I can't really comment on article 11. However I will say that I find it completely bizarre that people believe posting a link could ever require a license in Europe (or that any EU member state would define the title of an article to be a snippet of that article).
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What are you going to do next time the UK parliament passes a law you don't like? Dissolve the United Kingdom?
Can we? I'd be in favour of dissolving it back to counties with a senate. The south never does anything for us up North.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/may/23/uk-budget-d...
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Well that's completely false. We'll still be abiding by EU laws long after we leave. By 'most people', I'm assuming you mean the 30% who actually voted to leave?
> We'll still be abiding by EU laws long after we leave. That's a rather ignorant comment. The 'Great Repeal' bill as it was called was/is - I lose track of where it is in the law process at the moment - effectively did/will do a 'mv' of all EU regulation that the UK was beholden to over its own UK laws and when this has to be done before the UK leaves and will probably be done sooner. Then the parliament will cherry…
> Voting Leave != Does not like EU Commission making Laws by people the UK did not and cannot vote out.
And this betrays a very poor understanding of EU law making while hiding behind the shallow notion of who is elected and ejected on the behest of voters. The UK's political system is not exactly setup to satisfy that notion even after Brexit, since voters have no real choices & accountability is not seriously practiced. Bad politicians even after breaching ministerial code are simply reintroduced after a brief periods in the naughty box. Some are even rewarded for lying by getting high ranking cabinet jobs. Nothing so hollow as Brits handwringing about EU democratic processes while ignoring the problems with its own system.
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>>> In Germany, Google started to delist news sites from their index. After traffic dropped, the publishers gave Google a license to link freely. Law defeated. I don't know the detail but the way you put it seems very fair to me. Law protect publishers against Google, so they can say to Google "no", except that their interest is to say "yes". So they say "yes". Looks to me that even if the end result is the same, the…
Except you always have a say in whether or not Google takes any part of your site. Google have always respected robots.txt and it's trivial to block your site, or parts of it, from being indexed and shown in searches.