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After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Is the point you are trying to make that - because your college acted shitty during Vietnam - its cool if everyone acts shitty now? Not trying to be argumentative, really trying to understand the perspective of someone who survived the hell that apparently was Vietnam.

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Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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It's not "worse because it's coming from the government". The fact it is coming from the government is what makes it terrifying.

You seem to contradict yourself. It's worse, yes? Your first sentence says no while your second sentence says yes.

It's because you're comparing apples to oranges. Public shaming through social action vs the full weight of the federal government suppressing free speech; they are in two entirely different categories and shouldn't/can't be compared to each other without being misleading about the nature of the wrongs.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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> it's because we get downvoted/banned/doxxed (on most platforms) when we do say what we think. And what opinions are these?

Must have been doxxed for wanting lower taxes and deregulation.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Thanks, I genuinely appreciate the perspective. Do you find that perspective is primarily gotten from real life conversations, or from discourse online/social media/political commentators? I often fantasize about being able to just converse openly and be able to mutually share experiences. I was raised very conservative and speak the language and know the values. I don't hold those beliefs anymore because of experien…

> Do you find that perspective is primarily gotten from real life conversations, or from discourse online/social media/political commentators? Both. I worked at a company that leaned right, and there was a guy I worked with that took every opportunity to interject with his left/liberal opinion. I think people found it annoying sometimes, but we had some good discussions every once in a while. His career didn't suffer…

> What if a company wants to exclusively hire men? What if they want to exclusively hire Christians?

Unfortunately, history has shown that allowing that kind of selectivity ends up with extremely unfair job prospects for people from different ethnic backgrounds. You might be fine if you're a Christian man, but there's a lot of other people in the world so you should learn to get along with them (not intending to imply that you personally have an issue).

> Is it forcing people to use certain pronouns, even if you don't think it aligns with their biological sex, and it feels like lying?

It's not so much forcing as just being polite. If you meet someone and call them "David" and they reply "oh, I prefer Dave", then it'd be kind of odd for you to insist on using "David" because that's the name that was written on their birth certificate. It's about consideration for other people's self image etc.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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I don’t think it works that way for most people, maybe for some radicals but there are radicals on every side. Yesterday I overheard a conversation where a man was talking about a trip to our capital (in EU country) and how there were "strangepeople" (I wrote it together as it’s an insult as one word here and he meant it that way), wearing pink and rainbow and he was frightened and how’s he glad he returned to our sm…

There's a world of difference between someone who may not feel comfortable around people who look/dress differently and sending squads of masked men to round up people due to their ethnicity and send them off to concentration camps.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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What's really pathetic about the current situation is that McCarthyism was at least rooted in the fear that Soviets would bomb and kill people, which given Russia's conduct in Ukraine and other places was well-founded. The current authoritarian backsliding is because... woke? Truly the dumbest of timelines.

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The actual definition of woke is the general awareness that we live in a white supremacist society, which is the primary reason the far right dropped the term SJW.

As such, using the term "anti-woke" to describe oneself is essentially self-identifying as White Supremacist.

This is an intentional decision by the far right, and if you're not in on it, then yes, you've been tricked. Therefore it is completely reasonable for someone to think you are a fascist, if you use terminology that self-identifies yourself as fascist.

And you can't claim I'm changing the rules on you or anything like that. Woke is a word coined by anti-racists. You're using our word to self-identify as a bad person. It literally is that simple.

However, that slippery slope about randomly getting punched for vague ????? is total nonsense and irrational on your part.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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> Do you find that perspective is primarily gotten from real life conversations, or from discourse online/social media/political commentators? Both. I worked at a company that leaned right, and there was a guy I worked with that took every opportunity to interject with his left/liberal opinion. I think people found it annoying sometimes, but we had some good discussions every once in a while. His career didn't suffer…

> What if a company wants to exclusively hire men? What if they want to exclusively hire Christians? Unfortunately, history has shown that allowing that kind of selectivity ends up with extremely unfair job prospects for people from different ethnic backgrounds. You might be fine if you're a Christian man, but there's a lot of other people in the world so you should learn to get along with them (not intending to impl…

> Unfortunately, history has shown that allowing that kind of selectivity ends up with extremely unfair job prospects for people from different ethnic backgrounds.

This admin is solving that dilemma by attempting to deport them all..

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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> it's because we get downvoted/banned/doxxed (on most platforms) when we do say what we think. And what opinions are these?

its always, you know.. those opinions

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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A lot of things can be true at the same time: - The FCC shouldn't be involved in content moderation, and the FCC Chair is obviously on an authoritarian power trip. - What Kimmel said was wrong (assuming you believe Utah state investigators) and deeply irresponsible and inflammatory. - Clearly the market was already deciding that Kimmel's show is irrelevant (Nielsen ratings quite clear on that). - The FCC is only invo…

I disagree with your second point. I believe Utah, dislike Kimmel, and believe he said nothing wrong. In fact he pretty much stated facts with a sprinkle of his brand of comedy.

You're drifting into lalaland. It's very clear it was cancelled because of government action. Why are you making up weird stories. Everything has been reported.

For whatever reason you're trying to justifying government censorship. This article isn't about Kimmel it's about another show MAGA hates apparently. And the cult leader guy blew a hole threw your convoluted thesis yesterday when he openly admitted he disagrees with the first amendment.

Re: After getting Jimmy Kimmel suspended, FCC chair threatens ABC's The View

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Here’s a full transcript of the monologue - which is absurdly hard to find in all the coverage. https://pastebin.com/25ZmRNwj

> absurdly hard to find in all the coverage. By design. If it was actually offensive Fox would be playing it non-stop. The offense has been excavated from inside an implication of a phrase in a nested clause in a sentence saying something unrelated. Kimmel said (as part of an argument that republicans were playing politics by pointing fingers) that republicans were trying to prove that Robinson was not a republican ,…

What do the people claiming to be offended find offensive about it? I thought the issue was the orange one didn't like him and wanted him cancelled.
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