I have a question. These newer Intel machines all have performance and energy efficient cores. This makes sense as they are designed for the Desktop, but is this meaningful for server-side applications? Recent Linux kernels finally support these CPUs (do they have full support?), but if you host a service where you want predictable (and fast) response times why you use the mix of both cores? Or would you just turn of…
I don't expect the efficiency cores to be slow enough to have noticeable effect on response times. Rather they'll just have smaller throughput, and other cores will pick up the rest when the server is loaded.
I'm assuming you don't shoot yourself in the foot by running strictly single-threaded workflow explicitly pinned to the efficiency cores.
In a court of law I am innocent until proven guilty. In technology circles I am guilty until proven innocent. That's the difference, the outcome of which is the technology provider can quite frankly fuck off.
It’s the ‘the customer is always right’ philosophy, clearly by someone who has never worked retail or services.
Total noob on dedicated servers and I have been thinking about getting one for fun and learning. What happens when hardware component break? Does the price include repair? What happens when storage fail? Are data backupped or it is on me to make them?
Dedicated server provider is responsible for the hardware and the network. In this very important aspect, it's really no different than cloud (so yes, the price "includes" the repair). It depends on the exact provider, but as a general rule, they are (a) slower to repair and (b) not as proactive (e.g. they might not detect an eminent failure). On even a medium-sized contract, you can generally work in 1-4 hour repair…
I've been using Hetzner servers for ~15 years with multiple clients and employers, and always been disappointed with other providers compared to what Hetzner delivers. OVH with their frequent network level outages, the 2021 fire and so on. DigitalOcean with their way too frequent and long lasting maintenance windows. And AWS/GCP/Azure with their obscene pricing, ridiculous SLA and occasional hour-lasting outages. One…
While I like Hetzner a lot and can share your recommendations, I just don't see how it compares to full-blown cloud providers like AWS, GCP or Azure. It's a common misconception to put them at the same level when the offering is completely different. Nobody seriously uses AWS/GCP/Azure to have a couple VMs or dedicated servers alone. If someone can run their full workload in e.g. Hetzner without much hassle then they…
It's not just companies using the big 3 as simple VPS providers. A lot of applications are also hugely over-engineered for their actual needs, and unnecessarily ties themselves to the proprietary cloud APIs just for the sake of IAC or just for the sake of the simplicity of having the whole infrastructure at one provider. Or for the sake of using Kubernetes, for which I guess 1/10 of use cases are actually appropriate. I guess part of the problem is that using Big Cloud Provider X is the default in a lot of companies, and alternatives are not even being considered when starting out a new project.
I've been using Hetzner servers for ~15 years with multiple clients and employers, and always been disappointed with other providers compared to what Hetzner delivers. OVH with their frequent network level outages, the 2021 fire and so on. DigitalOcean with their way too frequent and long lasting maintenance windows. And AWS/GCP/Azure with their obscene pricing, ridiculous SLA and occasional hour-lasting outages. One…
Hetzner is not on the level of the any you mentioned. It's dirt cheap because latencies and protections against exploits are non-existent, sure it serves good when you don't have such needs but the moment you need any (i.e. DDoS protection and low/stable ms for game servers) - hetzner is out of the window. - Someone that used to fry lil hetzner servers for fun
Not my experience at all. Hetzner obviously does offer DDoS protection and responds quickly to that kind of issues. I've also had Hetzner techs proactively contact me regarding attacks on our infrastructure (none of which actually took any of our servers down, by the way). For specialized needs, you can even have your own hardware installed next by your servers in the same rack for a relatively small premium.
I've been using Hetzner servers for ~15 years with multiple clients and employers, and always been disappointed with other providers compared to what Hetzner delivers. OVH with their frequent network level outages, the 2021 fire and so on. DigitalOcean with their way too frequent and long lasting maintenance windows. And AWS/GCP/Azure with their obscene pricing, ridiculous SLA and occasional hour-lasting outages. One…
Have you tried Contabo? That has been my go-to hoster for the past decade.
Not familiar with them, but their pricing seems significantly higher than Hetzner.
Yeah, they indeed are a discount provider, which means that they're about as reliable as AWS or GCP services (which have constant partial failures). I've been very happy with Hetzner for some workloads.
The expectation with AWS and GCP is that the constant intermittent failures are shouldn’t be visible to end users. * So filing tickets is a big difference in user requirements. * Though GCP (back when it was just AppEngine) wasn’t always this way and as GAE users inside Google we had to write our own code for what we expected to fail, retries, backoffs etc.
Yeah, turns out that if you write code for constant intermittent failures, it'll run well for rare intermittent failures of Hetzner machines too.
I really wish I could get dedicated hardware for somewhere close to that price here in Asia. It seems like Hetzner is the only company in the world offering these kind of prices, right? What's the catch?
The catch is they lack enterprise features. No PCI DSS, not more than 25(?!) Servers per Network etc. Sure you can workaround these limitations, but thats the catch.
Perhaps enterprises who have those requirements are not the target customer base?