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Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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From the manual Cycle Completion Signal The cycle completion signal alerts you when a cycle completes and the dishwasher has washed and dried the dishes. You can choose to disable the tone or adjust the volume. NOTE: The unit must be powered OFF before activating. To activate: • Press and hold the right "Cancel Reset" button then press and hold the ON/OFF button. • When the light on the "Cancel Reset" button you are…

Even if it didn't have the option, all you'd have to do is open up the front panel and rip the beeper off the board. That's what I do to my microwaves that can't be muted.

Once upon a time I earned some major brownie points with a husband and wife by disassembling their child's electronic toy, inserting a piece of kleenex between the speaker and the grill, and reassembling it, now 30dB quieter.

Initially they suggested I just cut the wire but I figured I could do something a little easier to reverse.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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The author seems to be making an assumption that the average person cares as little about preventing centralization of power and having any semblance of online privacy as they do about the speed of their dishwasher and that the projects that focus on improving these things fail to gain a large user base because users don't care. That's simply not the case. Talk to most people and they'd prefer that their entire digit…

I'm not sure anyone truly is attempting that kind of tech. Making a private communication platform that people would actually use goes against the hacker mindset. People who care about privacy like simplicity.

Every Instagram filter is a GPU accelerated vulnerability to them, to the rest of us, it's a feature.

The ability to use selectable centralized relays for better performance like BitTorrent, so it doesn't eat 100GB a month of DHT traffic is absolutely critical to me, but needless complexity to someone who's priority is elegance.

Being free as in beer is critical. Sure, I'll donate to wikipedia when I can, but I'm not paying $8 a month for privacy unless I get a way higher paying job, and that job happens to involve privacy concerns.

That generally means ads. Open source can do ads, but open devs don't like them.

Self hosting is completely out unless it's P2P running in the background on phones when charging or some equally zero effort platform. I'm not doing unpaid sysadmin work at home and non-technical people certainly aren't.

It has to work well on hardware, that has to be cheap. Generally that's only possible because it's spying supported, although stuff is getting easier to make as tech improves. With Google keep I can tell my watch to add something to my shopping list. With YoLink my backyard motion sensor batteries last years. With Tile I can find my stuff if I drop my wallet in the street.

It has to work in all conditions. As in, if my phone is stolen on vacation I need to be able to replace it and get everything I need working. It can't involve heavy custom setup of any kind, it needs to be so incredibly boring you could trust your life to being able to set it up quickly, which you basically are if a cell phone is your only emergency communication.

There can't be any unreversible transactions for fraudsters to use, password reset has to work, there can't be anything that would make someone fire me for choosing it over a commercial provider if it decides to break. .

Finally, I'm not going to literally argue with anyone to get them to switch. At most I'll be like hey check this cool thing out. And if the thing isn't cool enough that they want it, I'll give up and go back to Facebook, because a platform is useless if nobody I want to talk to is on it.

I have absolutely no idea where to even start building a replacement for anything I use. Nobody seems to even be trying to make a full ecosystem, aside from badly performing Blockchain projects, that rivals the scope of Google and Facebook, and many privacy first devs don't even want such things to exist, they want separate small parts only connected manually or by custom end user scripts.

I'd love it if there was an open replacement for some this stuff. But I'm not sure how you'd attract interest or fund building it.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Plus powercuts, plus them drifting.

If you have a clock that shuts off when the power is cut, you don't need to worry about drifting: Most of those are synchronized to the grid, and the grid keeps time really, really well. They actually synchronize the grid to atomic clocks etc for that purpose.

> Most of those

Where do you live, and how old are your oldest electronics?

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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These comments seem to make a gloriously meta confirmation of the article's point. The article is saying that engineers (among others) have been known to optimise for the wrong thing. He uses a possibly inappropriate example of faster dishwashers.

Then many of the commenters (quite likely engineers) optimise their comments on the thing they know about -- desirability or otherwise of faster dishwashers -- rather than considering the merits of the main thesis

And it's made even better by some commenters saying things about areas they appear not to know about, like the desirability of faster dishwashers for restaurants

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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I would love to experiment with a dishwasher that can accept single items and deliver them cleaned on demand. And scale up to full loads with the same mechanism. Like dropping dishes into a river, with a cage at the start for stacking up dishes waiting to be automatically cleaned.

On a related note, at some point, computer vision models could probably help classify and typify incoming crockery and their target stains for a more accurate clean...

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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There's a touch of irony that TFA leads with the obscure, unexplained acronym "JTBD framework". Jobs-to-be-Done: A Framework for Customer Needs [ https://jobs-to-be-done.com/jobs-to-be-done-a-framework-for-... ]

An additional layer of irony is that your comment leads with an obscure unexplained acronym "TFA".

Good catch, hun.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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These comments seem to make a gloriously meta confirmation of the article's point. The article is saying that engineers (among others) have been known to optimise for the wrong thing. He uses a possibly inappropriate example of faster dishwashers. Then many of the commenters (quite likely engineers) optimise their comments on the thing they know about -- desirability or otherwise of faster dishwashers -- rather than…

Half of all engineers also cook at home(1) and nearly one hundred percent use plates and cutlery.(2)

1) I pulled this number out of a hat.

2) We likely don’t care about the opinions of people that eat food raw out of the garden using their hands only, at least with respect to dishwasher design.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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post #225

These comments seem to make a gloriously meta confirmation of the article's point. The article is saying that engineers (among others) have been known to optimise for the wrong thing. He uses a possibly inappropriate example of faster dishwashers. Then many of the commenters (quite likely engineers) optimise their comments on the thing they know about -- desirability or otherwise of faster dishwashers -- rather than…

Making a faster dishwasher is exactly what engineers are trained to do. They get paid handomsely to optimize and improve existing forms and problems.

Sure it's good to say engineers optimize the wrong stuff... but what's the solution? Be someone else? Start the dishwasher again from first principles?

I love opening up the discussion with awareness, but a suggestion on the next step is helpful too.

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