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Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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Post by 8fingerlouie »

mpwoz wrote: post #118

Surprised nobody has mentioned org-mode yet. It does everything shown in the video: collapse/expand nodes, focus on subtrees, ability to highlight across rows/nodes, etc. That said, the fluid animations in Bike look great, and the video was very slick! Nice work.

I've been through more than a dozen "outliners", "todo apps", and "document databases", and i always end up with a mix of org-mode and Markdown. It may be my requirements, but i'd rather have my data available on "whatever" platform i'm working on, than having a specialized tool on one platform.

My job frequently has me switching between different desktop operating systems and mobile, so for me a simple clear text approach works the best, and org-mode and Markdown has that nailed down.

So for now my tools are limited to Sublime Text on the desktop (with the OrgExtended plugin), Obsidian for my markdown notes (though sublime/vs code would work just as well), and BeOrg/PlainOrg on the iOS side of things, with simple file synchronization to keep files synchronized across platforms.

Ironically, TaskPaper was the tool that got me started on the cleartext approach (also written by the author of Bike).

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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Post by lproven »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #6

Workflowy and Logseq already provide these features. Am I missing something?

I've looked at (and discarded) Workflowy before. I hadn't heard of Logseq before, so thank you for that.

However, I am looking at it now, and while it's a nice little app, it's not an outliner and I am not sure if I am going to be able to find any use for it.

Outliners are explained here: http://outliners.scripting.com/

Why are you comparing Logseq to one?

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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Post by lproven »

BeautifulWorld wrote: post #142
diimdeep wrote: post #132

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Won't run on my MacPro laptop because it's pre 11. Boo!

Same.

I am on 10.14 because there are some 32-bit apps I can't replace (either because there are no 64-bit versions, for instance some old emulators, or because there are but they cost money, or there are but they have other changes which I don't like. MS Office is an example of both of the latter.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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Post by therockhead »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #193
therockhead wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly don't understand comments like this, you know it's ok to competition in this space?

For sure, I have nothing against competition. Usually though, there are some really unique product features which sometimes get lost in the marketing speak, so if there is a product that I am interested in, like this one, I like to verify that since I didn't quite get that from the product page.

Yeah, I read a dismissive tone in your comment but that's on me, your question prompted some good discussion.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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Post by dymk »

jessegrosjean wrote: post #87
jb1991 wrote: post #84

Regarding the website: having a video embedded with zero control to mute or change it's audio volume is really insensitive UX. The annoying background music is not even necessary to actually get meaning from the video.

Sorry about that. I'm a one guy does many things. Maybe I missed on video sound, but it's tricky trying to make a text editor look interesting. I thought the music helped.

I enjoyed the music. It gave me the feeling of an Apple presentation.

I'm also blessed with a computer that has a "mute" button if I didn't want to hear it.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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Post by andrew_ »

jessegrosjean wrote: post #78
andrew_ wrote: post #71

Call me a curmudgeon, but I just use an editor and markdown for the same fluid outlining. I guess this is more marketed towards people who don't also fluidly use a markup/markdown syntax.

This nice think outliners can do that editors generally can't do is Focus In / Out. Maybe not important for your thought process, but for me I really like being about to start new on a fresh "page", while still being in the same document.

Highlight + Tab does the trick for me. Both Atom and VSCode support collapsing Markdown. Just sayin.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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Post by Doctor_Fegg »

jessegrosjean wrote: post #218
Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please do at least put the minimum required version on the homepage (maybe in small text below the "Download" button or something).

A bit late, but added, I always forget that bit.

Thanks! Good luck with the app.

Re: Show HN: Bike – macOS Native Outliner

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Post by tensordance »

lproven wrote: post #223
BeautifulWorld wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Won't run on my MacPro laptop because it's pre 11. Boo!

Same. I am on 10.14 because there are some 32-bit apps I can't replace (either because there are no 64-bit versions, for instance some old emulators, or because there are but they cost money, or there are but they have other changes which I don't like. MS Office is an example of both of the latter.

OutlineEdit 3 supports macOS 10.14: https://outlineedit.com/home.html
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