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Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

rjh29 wrote: post #43
todd3834 wrote: post #22

This article has me wondering if I’ve ever turned my phone off besides restarting it or the battery died. I’m sure I have but I bet it is very uncommon. That being said, if it were off and lost, this feature would be amazing. Apple is very transparent about it and also allows you to disable it as far as I remember. The OP has a follow up tweet that iOS 15 made their phone hot during charging. Kind of feels like they…

There is an obvious trend on HN turning against Apple since the image hash stuff. Search 'Apple' in the last month and you'll see stories about Apple screwing over blind people, copying other people's ideas, screwing over employees, removing apps from the app store, disabling FaceID if you try to change the screen etc. From my POV (a non-Apple user) they have not changed, they have always been pretty anti-consumer. B…

This. I could get infinity upvotes by constantly shitting on googles lack of support and ban bots. HN is starting to feel like an eco chaimber

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by KingMachiavelli »

avianlyric wrote: post #131
zootboy wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's nothing that requires a microcontroller to be active during power-down to handle the issues you describe: For transit passes and IDs, there need to be non-phone-based ways of handling that issue. It's equally possible to lose / have your phone stolen. Talk to the station agent, or have the police look up your license by name / address. There's no need for a continuously-running microcontroller to read the pow…

> For transit passes It’s interesting, here in the U.K. you have a legal obligation to present a valid ticket upon demand for any train you travel on. Failure to do so for any reason (including my phone died, or I dropped the ticket) is a criminal offence (and I mean criminal , not civil) punishable by a prison sentence. Some ticket conductors at the end of a long shift hearing endless excuses about why someone doesn…

Wait... is this currently a thing? Does the transit pass keep working after the phone is off? If that's the case then it must really just be keeping a single unique identifier available and broadcasting it.

Also the easy fix for such an issue is to just poweroff the phone when it has ~5% of the phone power left which most phones already do. Instead of broadcasting its location, transit ID all the time it could just do it when you hold the power button down or something... it would last longer anyway.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by wutbrodo »

rjh29 wrote: post #43
todd3834 wrote: post #22

This article has me wondering if I’ve ever turned my phone off besides restarting it or the battery died. I’m sure I have but I bet it is very uncommon. That being said, if it were off and lost, this feature would be amazing. Apple is very transparent about it and also allows you to disable it as far as I remember. The OP has a follow up tweet that iOS 15 made their phone hot during charging. Kind of feels like they…

There is an obvious trend on HN turning against Apple since the image hash stuff. Search 'Apple' in the last month and you'll see stories about Apple screwing over blind people, copying other people's ideas, screwing over employees, removing apps from the app store, disabling FaceID if you try to change the screen etc. From my POV (a non-Apple user) they have not changed, they have always been pretty anti-consumer. B…

Agreed, I'm getting whiplash from how quickly I've found myself on the "actually this isn't that terrible" side of every Apple thread.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by wrycoder »

irjustin wrote: post #191

On a related, note Alarms still work even when the phone is "powered off". I get it because it's saved me once or twice. Nothing serious just reminders for various things. Overall net helpful from my view.

Until the alarm on your “powered off” iOS 15 phone goes off in the middle of the chamber music concert.

I don’t understand why the “silent” switch doesn’t mean “completely silent”.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by darknavi »

bellyfullofbac wrote: post #89

> Ford flipped the switch which he saw was now marked "Mode Execute Ready" instead of the now old-fashioned "Access Standby" which had so long ago replaced the appallingly stone-aged "Off". - Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Don't give Boeing any more ideas.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by judge2020 »

Causality1 wrote: post #222

Aren't there situations where strict control of electromagnetic emissions is required? Labs, scientific equipment, military sensor work etc?

Maybe, but at that point they would bin everyone's phone in a locker/stored in some controlled room. Also, FMI doesn't work if you have the phone but bluetooth is turned off (as in, turned off in settings; control center only disabled connecting existing devices, but keeps BT on).

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by darknavi »

wutbrodo wrote: post #224
rjh29 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is an obvious trend on HN turning against Apple since the image hash stuff. Search 'Apple' in the last month and you'll see stories about Apple screwing over blind people, copying other people's ideas, screwing over employees, removing apps from the app store, disabling FaceID if you try to change the screen etc. From my POV (a non-Apple user) they have not changed, they have always been pretty anti-consumer. B…

Agreed, I'm getting whiplash from how quickly I've found myself on the "actually this isn't that terrible" side of every Apple thread.

Apple is just the latest fun punching bag. Microsoft, Amazon, Apple, etc. People love to hop on the pitchfork bandwagon.

Except* for Comcast. FUCK Comcast.

* And also EA.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by Talanes »

Fnoord wrote: post #168
sparker72678 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It serves as anti-theft insofar as it makes it more of a pain generally to be in possession of a stolen phone. But yeah the police are not going to go get your iPhone back for you.

Lets not generalize, shall we? Police here in The Netherlands take care of stolen bikes. Its just a low success rate which skews our perception.

And here in America, I got literally laughed at by my small-town police force as a teenager when I went to them with the exact house my stolen bike was sitting outside of.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by jacquesm »

SilverRed wrote: post #171
fsckboy wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you slightly tangential, I hate being informed of things when I try to do them. I'm in a hurry, I don't want to read all about something now. I wish the dialogs had an "email this to me, willya?" selection, with an opportunity to decide the long term setting that I want.

Ultimately it doesn't really matter anyway. Unless you are the worlds most wanted criminal and Apple is working with the government to track you down via your turned off iphone. And in that case, you should have done your research to see this anyway. If the average user blows past this message, it has no impact on their life.

Ah, a new version of the 'nothing to hide' argument. Thanks.
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