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Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by bdcravens »

todd3834 wrote: post #22

This article has me wondering if I’ve ever turned my phone off besides restarting it or the battery died. I’m sure I have but I bet it is very uncommon. That being said, if it were off and lost, this feature would be amazing. Apple is very transparent about it and also allows you to disable it as far as I remember. The OP has a follow up tweet that iOS 15 made their phone hot during charging. Kind of feels like they…

My phone has always run hot after an OS update or syncing to a new phone. My understanding is that the CPU is ramping up during that time, reindexing and the like.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by sneak »

chewmieser wrote: post #8

Apple is very clear that this is how things work now. They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you of this change the first time you try to shut your device off - https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... I'm not sure why this is presented as some new thing, or a gotcha or whatever this is. We've known about it for months... And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little…

"very clear" is an overstatement. TFA is an industry-leading expert expressing surprise at this state of affairs.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by illegalsmile »

wlesieutre wrote: post #65
illegalsmile wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that it really matters but mine does not say "iPhone Findable after Power Off" under the slider and I have find my iPhone enabled on 14.8.

14.8 won't be findable after power off, it's an iOS 15 feature. When "turned off" it can maintain an occasional bluetooth beacon like AirTags which other iPhones pick up.

Thanks, that makes sense. I don't immediately upgrade so I haven't seen that yet.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by staplers »

hungryforcodes wrote: post #60
wlesieutre wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "slide to power off" prompt literally says "iPhone Findable after Power Off >" right under it every time, but 99% of users will never see it or care about this feature because no one ever turns their phone off. But if you're one of those few people who does turn the phone off, it says right there, and you can tap on it to shut down to unfindable state this time instead. Note that it requires a passcode to disable…

I turn off my phone but never that way. It either runs out of power or I hard reset it. Either way I don't want it spying on me.

  Either way I don't want it spying on me.
Unfortunately iOS is filled with call-homes to apple servers with all sorts of telemetry data. You can "turn off" exact lat/long coordinates (location data), however your cell provider can triangulate your position and apple can triangulate via wifi/other Apple products. Read about how Airtags work.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by lucb1e »

elzbardico wrote: post #48

Well, unless you’re living under a rock this has been exhaustively discussed when this feature was launched.

I click every global tracking network link out there and am on HN daily and often more time than I perhaps should. This is the first I hear of it. Yeah I really need to get out from under this rock and spend more time on HN.

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Post by notyourwork »

sneak wrote: post #82
chewmieser wrote: post #8

Apple is very clear that this is how things work now. They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you of this change the first time you try to shut your device off - https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... I'm not sure why this is presented as some new thing, or a gotcha or whatever this is. We've known about it for months... And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little…

"very clear" is an overstatement. TFA is an industry-leading expert expressing surprise at this state of affairs.

What is not clear about the message that says exactly what this?

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Post by numpad0 »

This kind of behavior is needed for:

- Public transit and digital IDs. It sucks when phone dies and you can’t get out of a station or show your driver’s license.

- Power management. Power buttons on modern phones are digitally controlled by a microcontroller because actually switching main power by those buttons can glitch the phone.

- Firmware updates. Phone has to be able to handle USB connection to accept new firmware.

- (probably more)

It’s nothing new. Just that it does wireless too now.

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