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“You think you really know what's going on? They passing laws where they can run up in your own home Cameras on your laptop, TV and your iPhone The battery don't come out, that means it's always on” - B.o.B., “Paper Route”, 2013 One might call him a conspiracy theory rapper. He once got in a Twitter feud with Neil deGrasse Tyson on whether the earth was flat.
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I turn off my phone but never that way. It either runs out of power or I hard reset it. Either way I don't want it spying on me.
> Either way I don't want it spying on me. It literally isn't spying on you, it's allow you to find your after you've lost it.
almost no mobile device has a feature that is 'literally spying on you'.
the problem is when the devices have so many features that they can be easily turned into a consummate spy device by any nearby paying agency.
in other words : no mobile device is spying on you, but the people who control them definitely do, and they're often willing to sell the rights to do so to groups that are poorly vetted -- using a device with less capabilities necessarily gives the controlling party less options by which to gather data for whatever reasons they may be compelled to do so.
so.. the phone, lacking sovereignty , does not spy on you; but it's a big leaky gps/imu-enabled microphone camera that sits in your pocket or purse all day, and the list of groups with access to that leaky data-pipe increases every day with little concern and little reform regarding data retention policies and ownership rights.
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Mine has no such message, and I'm on iOS 15. I just tested it. Any idea why?
Head to the "Find My" section in the settings, click into "Find My iPhone", and see if "Find My network" is on or off. If it's off, you won't get the disclaimer, because it's not active.
slide to power off, Emergency SOS, Cancel
That's it. Nothing appears after I turn it off either.
But if they actually turned off power, they'd lose track of where you are. They'd lose the tracking information needed for marketing. Can't have that. Does "airplane mode" still shut off all transmitters?
This kind of behavior is needed for: - Public transit and digital IDs. It sucks when phone dies and you can’t get out of a station or show your driver’s license. - Power management. Power buttons on modern phones are digitally controlled by a microcontroller because actually switching main power by those buttons can glitch the phone. - Firmware updates. Phone has to be able to handle USB connection to accept new firm…
For transit passes and IDs, there need to be non-phone-based ways of handling that issue. It's equally possible to lose / have your phone stolen. Talk to the station agent, or have the police look up your license by name / address.
There's no need for a continuously-running microcontroller to read the power button. It's perfectly possible to have the power button feed power directly from the battery to a bootstrap power management IC, which then takes over supplying power to the main processor.
USB connections supply power, so it's easy to implement having the presence of power on the USB port boot the phone.
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Not that it really matters but mine does not say "iPhone Findable after Power Off" under the slider and I have find my iPhone enabled on 14.8.
14.8 won't be findable after power off, it's an iOS 15 feature. When "turned off" it can maintain an occasional bluetooth beacon like AirTags which other iPhones pick up.
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Yeah, there's a reasonably visible message "warning" you of this, which has a prompt to turn it off. I actually thought this was very old, added a year or so ago. I guess it got delayed? I've had two phones stolen (right out of my hands) that were immediately shut down and sim cards ejected to prevent them from being tracked. While I'm sure this feature wouldn't help me get back a phone, I hope it does deter this. Ed…
The police in my country wouldn't even bother to check, they have rapists and drug dealers to deal with.
... unless your country is the US, in which case, yeah, true.
Apple is very clear that this is how things work now. They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you of this change the first time you try to shut your device off - https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... I'm not sure why this is presented as some new thing, or a gotcha or whatever this is. We've known about it for months... And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little…
Agreed. Of all the messiness in iOS's settings app, it's honestly pretty easy to find the setting to turn this off (iCloud > Find My > Find My network). The Twitter thread almost reads like someone who's trying to not understand what's happening. Not to mention the fact that there's a reminder of this setting every time you turn your phone off, which can be tapped to disable this behavior.
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Head to the "Find My" section in the settings, click into "Find My iPhone", and see if "Find My network" is on or off. If it's off, you won't get the disclaimer, because it's not active.
That setting is enabled for me on iOS 15, and yet I have no such message on the power off screen. slide to power off, Emergency SOS, Cancel That's it. Nothing appears after I turn it off either.