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Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Maybe you don't want to be tracked sometimes, and you expect turning off your device to turn it off.

What situation are you going, "I don't want big tech to be tracking me right now"?

Every situation, but I was trying to frame it more softly because I was expecting a large percentage of these comments to say "I don't just not mind being tracked, I want it now!" and similar thoughts.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Wow, first I've heard of it. Seems to be enabled by default too -- I think users definitely are not "clear" about it.

The "slide to power off" prompt literally says "iPhone Findable after Power Off >" right under it every time, but 99% of users will never see it or care about this feature because no one ever turns their phone off. But if you're one of those few people who does turn the phone off, it says right there, and you can tap on it to shut down to unfindable state this time instead. Note that it requires a passcode to disable…

Not that it really matters but mine does not say "iPhone Findable after Power Off" under the slider and I have find my iPhone enabled on 14.8.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Apple is very clear that this is how things work now. They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you of this change the first time you try to shut your device off - https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... I'm not sure why this is presented as some new thing, or a gotcha or whatever this is. We've known about it for months... And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little…

Yeah, there's a reasonably visible message "warning" you of this, which has a prompt to turn it off. I actually thought this was very old, added a year or so ago. I guess it got delayed? I've had two phones stolen (right out of my hands) that were immediately shut down and sim cards ejected to prevent them from being tracked. While I'm sure this feature wouldn't help me get back a phone, I hope it does deter this. Ed…

The police in my country wouldn't even bother to check, they have rapists and drug dealers to deal with.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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The "slide to power off" prompt literally says "iPhone Findable after Power Off >" right under it every time, but 99% of users will never see it or care about this feature because no one ever turns their phone off. But if you're one of those few people who does turn the phone off, it says right there, and you can tap on it to shut down to unfindable state this time instead. Note that it requires a passcode to disable…

Not that it really matters but mine does not say "iPhone Findable after Power Off" under the slider and I have find my iPhone enabled on 14.8.

14.8 won't be findable after power off, it's an iOS 15 feature. When "turned off" it can maintain an occasional bluetooth beacon like AirTags which other iPhones pick up.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Or you're an activist attending a protest.

It’s almost strictly better to leave your phone home in that sort of circumstance though. Your phone looks like you stayed home all day, and you don’t need to worry about things like whether any information gets sent out despite being “off”.

Ideally yes. However, people need to communicate and coordinate. Even arranging transportation may be an issue without a phone.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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The "slide to power off" prompt literally says "iPhone Findable after Power Off >" right under it every time, but 99% of users will never see it or care about this feature because no one ever turns their phone off. But if you're one of those few people who does turn the phone off, it says right there, and you can tap on it to shut down to unfindable state this time instead. Note that it requires a passcode to disable…

I turn off my phone but never that way. It either runs out of power or I hard reset it. Either way I don't want it spying on me.

Hard reset doesn't have anything to do with this since it turns back on afterward. As far as letting the battery die, I think it's going to be much more common that someone loses their phone, the battery is dead, and this helps them figure out "whoops, I left it at the bar we went to after dinner."

The power reserve for this only lasts a few hours, but if you don't want that feature you can turn it off.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Apple is very clear that this is how things work now. They even give you a dialog prompt now to inform you of this change the first time you try to shut your device off - https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... I'm not sure why this is presented as some new thing, or a gotcha or whatever this is. We've known about it for months... And IMO, it's a positive change although it does sound a little…

Agreed. Of all the messiness in iOS's settings app, it's honestly pretty easy to find the setting to turn this off (iCloud > Find My > Find My network). The Twitter thread almost reads like someone who's trying to not understand what's happening. Not to mention the fact that there's a reminder of this setting every time you turn your phone off, which can be tapped to disable this behavior.

Settings -> (Your Name/Apple ID ...) -> Find My -> Find My iPhone -> Find My Network in latest iOS.

Re: iPhone remains findable after power off

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Maybe you don't want to be tracked sometimes, and you expect turning off your device to turn it off.

Yes, exactly this. Imagine à reporter going through an unfriendly country’s airport.

then their location is known anyway
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