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8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now

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Re: 8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now

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> the last time that xenophobia was not stoped it cost over 80 million lives I assume you are referring to WWII - it is a strong assertion to claim that was a xenophobic war. The Nazis were xenophobic, but one suspects their driving motivations for actually doing something about it were economic. They were expanding because they famously thought they needed more space and resources, and the German economy prior to th…

What the 5-eyes nations are doing in the Middle East and parts of Asia is clearly based on xenophobia. The West are terrified that places like Libya, Iraq, Iran, Yemen .. Afghanistan .. Palestine .. will unite and create a dominant union in the region which shuts out Western influence entirely. And, indeed, these nations who might formerly have had a chance to create such a union, have xenophobic reasoning to do so.…

Yeah, the United Arab Republic turned out so well...

For the countries you list, the only time in history that they ever were all in the same country was a brief period during the Abbasid Caliphate, which quickly broke apart. There is a lot of bad blood between Persians and Levantine Arabs that is going to prevent any sort of stable long-term stability.

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Migration, automation, and the meaning of life in the new western world. Someone should write a book for white males, sadly we keep leaving this discussion to neonazis and white supremacists online instead of having it ourselves in the public realm...

Jordan Peterson comes to mind. But even he gets labeled as an """alt-right""" even though he is super moderate when you actually listen to him.

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Re: 8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now

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Yes we have redefined conservative to be anyone with whom we disagree. The shooter posted about various 'concerns'. He was worried about environmental destruction caused by massive corporations and immigrants. This seems neither republican, Democrat, progressive, nor religious. The best description is eco nationalist but that doesnt even cover it. Given the major figures in the conservative movement were criticized f…

Ecofascism is what it is called and it is an inside joke. It is not a serious political position. It is meant precisely to confuse people like you.

Nah. I've met enough left wingers who believe overpopulation of certain races is a drag on society to know exactly where these ideas are coming from.

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> I'm guessing/assuming that 8chan is an anything goes censorship free community (like 4chan was/is?). And maybe it's not explicitly in support of racist ideals but instead refuses to condemn any ideologies or discussion More or less. More so than 4chan. 8chan is like Reddit (and unlike 4chan) in that it allows anyone to set up a subcommunity that they can moderate however they like. Only illegal content (and nude/se…

Explain to me the important differences between /pol/ and Al Queda, that would make the US military choose not to order drone strikes on /pol/ operatives

/pol/ is not an organization. It's a loose community of people, almost none of whom have done anything worse than expressing terrible opinions.

Shootings are incentivized by /pol/ and frequently announced there, but they're not planned on /pol/.

I don't think "/pol/ operatives" meaningfully exist.

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It's not a mental health problem. It's a propaganda problem. These people aren't clinically insane. They are just enveloped in hatred. In particular dehumanization propaganda brainwashed them into seeing others as not even human. If you go to places with decades long conflicts, you'll see this mentality on display everywhere. So it's not a mental health issue. All these people aren't insane. They are just really conv…

I can agree that it's not a problem of mental health in the sense of diagnosable conditions like major depression, schizophrenia, etc. But it is linked to the inability of people to achieve positive life outcomes - i.e., healthy friendships and intimate relationships, satisfying and well-paying jobs, and a sense of community engagement. This kind of deep hatred only develops after you've spent enough of your life abs…

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4chan and 8chan are cancers upon the internet. The sites themselves and their community members spew toxicity, hate, cynicism, and revulsion wherever they turn up. They revel in trolling, harassment, and offense for the sake of offense. This, as recent events demonstrate, often extends further into deep-seated hatred and racism. I don't know if it's an intrinsic side effect of the 100% anonymous culture or just just…

Not your Internet, not your community and not your problem. If you say school shootings are your problem, well... Talk to your neighbors, talk to your friends, talk to your family, talk to your children. School shootings are an IRL local community problem. The reason the chans turn so cancerous, is that these people's environments are extremely cancerous to them. To fight this, they concentrate where there's the most…

No comments? Lame.

Re: 8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now

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This was just in my Twitter feed, „Drug, Alcohol and Suicide Mortality in white non-Hispanics by Birth Cohort“: https://twitter.com/zachwahls/status/910282384297349120?s=21

What's the vertical axis? What's BA?

BA is if the person has a 4 year college degree. The vertical is deaths per 100k. It was sourced from page 49 of this: https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/6_cased...

Re: 8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now

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...how have things gotten objectively worse for young men?

There's a huge wage gap with young women outearning men. The number of poor young men is getting higher. Men are increasingly less educated relatively.

https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/B03E1C0B-B635-456...

Oh and literally everything is mens fault.

Now actually I agree that a lot of this is individual mens faults but theres also something cultural and societal that we need to address as a society

Re: 8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now

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My friends and I used to visit the *chan sites when we were younger. Sometimes the discussions there were good e.g. if you browse the exercise forums. But then one of my closest friends killed himself silently. That was when I realized that these sites are no jokes. Some of the people there have fallen so deep into the pit of hate and depression. Nowadays I don't even link nor share the name of the sites to my younge…

I think there's more going on in our current society than is being discussed. What it is exactly, and why its happening, is really hard to tell. We cant see the forest from the trees. But I don't think its young men's fault, I think that things have gotten objectively worse for them. People are responding, and are increasingly responding with huge negativity. I think this has nothing to do with how they're raised, an…

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