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8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now
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#12My friends and I used to visit the *chan sites when we were younger. Sometimes the discussions there were good e.g. if you browse the exercise forums.
But then one of my closest friends killed himself silently. That was when I realized that these sites are no jokes. Some of the people there have fallen so deep into the pit of hate and depression. Nowadays I don't even link nor share the name of the sites to my younger friends where I see the early signs of hate growing. My personal belief is that all of this is happening due to a lack of a proper father figure for boys growing up, making them socially illfit, making them outcasts and making them blame everything on immigrants and so on when they can't find a girlfriend or friends.
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#13I think that technology has brought us some truly marvelous things. But they also enable us to avoid casual social contact while enabling us to withdraw from meaningful social contact.
Online anonymity permits endless Sybil attacks -- helping turn communities' frustration from anger and rage into violence. I'm guessing/assuming that 8chan is an anything goes censorship free community (like 4chan was/is?). And maybe it's not explicitly in support of racist ideals but instead refuses to condemn any ideologies or discussion. But because of other communities' moderation, they likely become one of the bastions of the racists. So even if their ownership never had any interest in hate speech, their platform becomes a de facto mechanism for its spread.
As much problems as anonymity causes I sure don't think that some new Real World Identity driven Internet would be a good idea. But sites with next to no content moderation seem like a bad idea. Not that I can imagine a resolution, really.
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I imagine how frustrated I might feel if I didn't have some kind of daily work or creative task to keep me busy and fill me with purpose. If I felt depressed I might be willing to blame it on someone. If everything I read said that in fact there is someone to blame, I wonder: would I be able to see through that? Would I stand up and say 'no, that's wrong: those people aren't the source of our problems'? I like to think I would. But I've definitely caught myself (long after the fact) buying into BS groupthink/hivemind conspiracy hogwash.
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#14There was a time that it was difficult for me to understand how it was possible that governments in the middle east were supporting domestic terrorism. It was difficult to imagine how normal people were supporting the killing of fellow citizens. Now, that I see this same trend unravel in the USA it becomes easier to understand. I have seen for the past decades the shifting of what "conservative" means. Extremists wer…
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#15Does anyone have an idea of how big 8chan and 4chan is in terms of users?
Just from the visible activity in there I can see they must be massive.
I think Slate is incorrect in describing them as expression of traditional neo-nazism. To me they are quite their own thing. Born out of Anime culture and gaming-culture becoming a playground for role playing, trash talking, trolling, real-life pranks degenerating into what it is now ...
To me they are very hard to understand. You start by joking that you are a jew-hating nazi and then after a while you become an actual jew-hating nazi. How does that work psychologically?
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#16One feels compelled to point out that, despite 8chan being a breeding ground of hate, threads by mass shooters are typically removed in minutes and threats or manifestos containing identifying information are forwarded to the authorities, with at least one known incident being prevented by them, a planned shooting at Bethel Park High School. Which, frankly, is the surprising part since I don't know why any sane perso…
> despite 8chan being a breeding ground of hate, threads by mass shooters are typically removed in minutes So, it is ok that people promote and help mass shooters as far as there is no direct connection the day of the attack? > Going there is just asking for trouble and I would urge anyone curious to look for screenshots instead of actually visiting the website. Is a screenshot of hate speech promoting hate less than…
You'd be imagining wrong. Cloudflare left up ISIS websites because they said it isn't their job police content.
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#17They should monitor 8chan for manifestos and get alerts for PDF attachments. > It was originally posted on 4chan, later to 8chan. > In each instance, community members denounced the man’s intentions and informed LEO.
the fbi literally pays people to post in threads about mass shooters.
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#18What's even stranger to me is how "normal" mass shootings have become
Apparently this marks US Mass shooting #250 for 2019 (this was the 215th day of the year).
[1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/03/el-pas...
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#19My friends and I used to visit the *chan sites when we were younger. Sometimes the discussions there were good e.g. if you browse the exercise forums. But then one of my closest friends killed himself silently. That was when I realized that these sites are no jokes. Some of the people there have fallen so deep into the pit of hate and depression. Nowadays I don't even link nor share the name of the sites to my younge…
Oh damn, my condolences.
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#20I sure am glad we've reached the point of domestic terrorism and I'm 100% sure people will still go:
1) "Not everyone you disagree with is a nazi"
2) "We shouldn't shut down their opinions, they're just as valid"
Because as we can see, that obviously has no negative consequences at all.