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How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Who's making excuses? Poor people often come from poor cultures -- ones that don't place value on things like jogging in the morning. That's just a fact, it isn't an excuse or a statement about personal control. And we, as a society, have the ability to influence both individual behavior and culture, so it doesn't even matter which one you want to assign blame to.

While not necessarily "excuse making", the original poster gives a reason he thinks poor people don't exercise (because they are working too hard). I believe, in general, the reasons poor people don't exercise are not that at all, but results from the same types of behaviors and attitudes that encourage poverty. I'm not assigning cause necessarily... I agree when you say the problem is likely often cultural. People f…

Woah, I think you're way off here. All class systems are a result of how you're raised. Raise a "poor" person in a rich family and they will be smarter, more healthy, etc. Likewise take a rich baby and put it in a poor family and watch it's environment mold it.

Humans in general are striking similar physically. We are all homo-sapiens. It's almost entirely nurture, it was sad to read your comment because to deny that being raised by parents who are often tired, overworked, underfed, undereducated, etc, etc, doesn't continue a cycle.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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in greater LA, fried chicken is actually a new trend in higher-end casual dining, because of the east asian influence on local cuisine (korean, japanese, taiwanese).

oftentimes it's served out of coffee shops. or tea houses. go figure.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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In my experience they have the time, but they don't have the knowledge. Also, weight loss is a battle fought and won far more in the kitchen than in the gym. While I would expect a correlation between jogging and eating healthier, I would say the reason that the poor are less healthy has far more to do with eating habits than with exercising habits.

Does your experience include having been below the poverty line? Or just observing "them" from afar?

Experience with the eating habits or experience with weight loss being more about what you eat than how you exercise?

Also, my experience with poor individuals includes directly living with them for months and close family who is very poor. I've also known families who don't even qualify for many of the standard welfare benefits due to immigration status.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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This analysis would be tremendously racist in America.

It's racist anywhere.

The vast majority of restaurants serving chicken nuggets, which is what was tracked, are burger joints, not chicken shacks. Author knows exactly what he's doing.

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Well, China is definitely not an "up and coming" country. I've been here like a week and I already don't want to ever look at chicken in my life again.

Try the pork next time. Yes, with the skin and fat on it. Or the beef noodle soup.

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1. This is not even wrong. 2. Fried chicken and coffee shops seem like a proxy for class and race in London and were deliberately chosen by the author. Yuppies...

1. I'm not sure what your #1 is supposed to mean.

2. Of course they are and were.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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A more interesting indicator that authors may consider is how many people living in the area do jogging. When I moved to London's SE4 postcode three years ago (it's pretty close to Peckham, FWIW), the regeneration of the area has just started and the more middle-class looking people appeared around, the more men and women in running gear were visible in the streets in the morning. Poor on average take worse care of t…

Poor on average take worse care of their health and fitness I think it can be primarily attributed to the low income jobs being more physically and emotionally draining which result in them being sapped by the time they reach home. This can also be witnessed in the amount of nurture they can provide to their offspring. An interesting argument in one of the Quora thread about being rich was that financial freedom let'…

I think that's wildly speculative. A physically draining job should keep one somewhat fit and healthy, after all. That's to say nothing of the fact that the poorest people I've seen in the U.S. don't even have jobs. Their children too, are obese - which really suggests that it's more of a culture issue.

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Jogging, fried chicken, and coffee shops. Yup. You'd be paying fines and penalties if you posted this from the USA. I doubt there'd be criminal prosecution under 42 USC unless you repeatedly continued posting this kind of content after warnings, but that is not legal advice. It's illegal for anyone involved in the housing or real estate industries to propagate racist information. Also it's illegal to advocate racist…

Wait, What? There is a law against giving racist real estate advice? That, isn't actually true, is it? You are joking? Is that actually true?!

From a real estate agent, yes, I would surprised if that was not forbidden by the Fair Housing Act. Also, I assume, from landlords or sellers. But I also assume that does not extend to people who are part of the renting and selling of homes.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Wait, What? There is a law against giving racist real estate advice? That, isn't actually true, is it? You are joking? Is that actually true?!

I know that my wife isn't allowed to answer the question "Are the schools good here?" with anything other than "This home is in school district 123", or "you'll have to do your own research". It's considered "steering". (Because Good Schools is considered a dog whistle for "white neighborhood")

Because god forbid someone be able to actually find out from their real estate agent if a property is in a good part of town or not.
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