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How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by mesozoic »

UIZealot wrote: post #173
Zigurd wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be gentle but firm if the locals keep trying to feed you pizza and fried chicken. Food in China is awesome. Ask to go where the people you are visiting eat lunch normally.

(Restaurant) Food in China is terrible! The bigger the city you are in, the more so. You probably like it because you're not used to the taste of MSG which is used freely and generously in China to cover up stale ingredients. Having eaten out daily in Shanghai and Guangzhou for a few years, I got pretty sick of it.

I just started using MSG at home are you saying it will eventually stop making everything taste better?

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by jrock08 »

michaelbuddy wrote: post #167
lucasnemeth wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This analysis is tremendously racist. period.

No you make it racist. To the clearheaded its just reality.

He's literally using fried chicken as an extremely thinly veiled way of measuring the number of black people in an area.

This is a good article on why "fried chicken" when paired with other things can be racist. [1] Since "up and coming" is basically code for gentrifying, it shouldn't be that hard to see why this is actually racist.

[1] http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/02/heres-wh...

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by djtriptych »

rockmeamedee wrote: post #142
DannoHung wrote: post #31

This analysis would be tremendously racist in America.

I don't think it would be. Yes, the basis for the hypothesis is fried chicken -> black people and craft coffee -> white hipsters. But that's actually what happens with gentrification. Diverse neighbourhoods get plowed over with rich white people. Using race in an analysis doesn't make it racist. OP saying they wouldn't want to live in the places with fried chicken, in the context above (KFC->black people) would be. I…

Ask a black person if that sounds racist to them. Or does that not matter?

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by drdeca »

WildUtah wrote: post #180
smikhanov wrote: post #41

A more interesting indicator that authors may consider is how many people living in the area do jogging. When I moved to London's SE4 postcode three years ago (it's pretty close to Peckham, FWIW), the regeneration of the area has just started and the more middle-class looking people appeared around, the more men and women in running gear were visible in the streets in the morning. Poor on average take worse care of t…

Jogging, fried chicken, and coffee shops. Yup. You'd be paying fines and penalties if you posted this from the USA. I doubt there'd be criminal prosecution under 42 USC unless you repeatedly continued posting this kind of content after warnings, but that is not legal advice. It's illegal for anyone involved in the housing or real estate industries to propagate racist information. Also it's illegal to advocate racist…

Wait,

What?

There is a law against giving racist real estate advice?

That, isn't actually true, is it? You are joking?

Is that actually true?!

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by djtriptych »

kazinator wrote: post #156
ethbro wrote: post #49

> Poor on average take worse care of their health and fitness Not intended to be snarky, as I grok the intent of your comment, but poor also don't typically have time to come home and go for an hour jog with frequency during the week.

Oh they have time. What they don't have is the hope that doing some small positive thing will make any long-term difference in their lives.

Are you poor?

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by djtriptych »

Lawtonfogle wrote: post #133
ethbro wrote: post #49

> Poor on average take worse care of their health and fitness Not intended to be snarky, as I grok the intent of your comment, but poor also don't typically have time to come home and go for an hour jog with frequency during the week.

In my experience they have the time, but they don't have the knowledge. Also, weight loss is a battle fought and won far more in the kitchen than in the gym. While I would expect a correlation between jogging and eating healthier, I would say the reason that the poor are less healthy has far more to do with eating habits than with exercising habits.

Does your experience include having been below the poverty line? Or just observing "them" from afar?

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by BookmarkSaver »

WildUtah wrote: post #180
smikhanov wrote: post #41

A more interesting indicator that authors may consider is how many people living in the area do jogging. When I moved to London's SE4 postcode three years ago (it's pretty close to Peckham, FWIW), the regeneration of the area has just started and the more middle-class looking people appeared around, the more men and women in running gear were visible in the streets in the morning. Poor on average take worse care of t…

Jogging, fried chicken, and coffee shops. Yup. You'd be paying fines and penalties if you posted this from the USA. I doubt there'd be criminal prosecution under 42 USC unless you repeatedly continued posting this kind of content after warnings, but that is not legal advice. It's illegal for anyone involved in the housing or real estate industries to propagate racist information. Also it's illegal to advocate racist…

What the fuck?

This is complete bullshit.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by drzaiusapelord »

rockmeamedee wrote: post #142
DannoHung wrote: post #31

This analysis would be tremendously racist in America.

I don't think it would be. Yes, the basis for the hypothesis is fried chicken -> black people and craft coffee -> white hipsters. But that's actually what happens with gentrification. Diverse neighbourhoods get plowed over with rich white people. Using race in an analysis doesn't make it racist. OP saying they wouldn't want to live in the places with fried chicken, in the context above (KFC->black people) would be. I…

The neighborhoods gentrying in Chicago right now aren't Black > White. They're Latino/Mixed > White/Mixed. There's no friend chicken places to go out of business. If anything craft friend chicken is popular now and entering the gentrified neighborhoods.

A more rational metric would be payday loan stores, laundromats, budget cell phone stores, etc.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by djtriptych »

GBond wrote: post #122
dbattaglia wrote: post #39

Would be interesting to see this done for Brooklyn, which has a lot of "up-and-coming" areas and a plethora of fried chicken and coffee shops.

Problem with Brooklyn is that high-end hipster friend chicken sandwiches is the latest trendy food.

The problem with resilient neighborhoods in Brooklyn is high numbers of black home ownership.

Re: How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops

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Post by varelse »

WildUtah wrote: post #180
smikhanov wrote: post #41

A more interesting indicator that authors may consider is how many people living in the area do jogging. When I moved to London's SE4 postcode three years ago (it's pretty close to Peckham, FWIW), the regeneration of the area has just started and the more middle-class looking people appeared around, the more men and women in running gear were visible in the streets in the morning. Poor on average take worse care of t…

Jogging, fried chicken, and coffee shops. Yup. You'd be paying fines and penalties if you posted this from the USA. I doubt there'd be criminal prosecution under 42 USC unless you repeatedly continued posting this kind of content after warnings, but that is not legal advice. It's illegal for anyone involved in the housing or real estate industries to propagate racist information. Also it's illegal to advocate racist…

And only in the US would this be immediately acted upon as such. And that's because we all have to pretend there's no cultural link between anything and anything else.

For we must treat all Americans as ideal beige spherical cows (Oh $h!+ did I just fat shame? Don't sue me! Don't sue me!). So even if a correlation is real, you're just flat out not allowed to say so, right?

There are plenty of other flaws in this analysis without having to play the race card, don't you think?

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