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Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by brookst »

beeflet wrote: post #94
brookst wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you built up a Linux system to have similar functionality (single user account across systems that syncs user data, automatically backs up to a cloud, syncs photos and videos, sends all traffic through an anonymizing relay, receives push notifications for essentially all apps, etc), would it contact fewer services?

To some extent. You could do a lot of the syncing with a decentralized system like syncthing. You could use GPS for time. Tor for anonymization and additional firewall-punching.

GPS isn’t great indoors. Tor just stuffs things through a tunnel. You could do the same on a Mac with a VPN and say it’s just connecting to one service.

And by the time you get to nightly backups and photo sharing across computers, I think it’d be pretty similar.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by brookst »

idoubtit wrote: post #125
joshstrange wrote: post #107

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No. This article: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use > while not in use That is not "Apple reports every click you make", _very_ different from Microsoft. These requests seem like they are all for background tasks to keep data up to date when the user goes to use it. Now can you see a difference between that and _reporting_ on what you are doing?

> These requests seem like they are all for background tasks to keep data up to date when the user goes to use it. Where did you get this information? Is it just a guess based on what Apple declared about these domains? In the article, there is no info about the content sent to these Apple owned domains. For all we know, MacOS could send detailed reports on the user's activity.

I mean it could be sending your actual thoughts based on undocumented long range EEGs.

But the burden of proof is on those who claim something works differently than documented.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by pmarreck »

ImJamal wrote: post #178
danaris wrote: post #129

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Not every Apple service is E2E encrypted, but some of them (like iMessage) are, and it's 100% real E2E.

If you do a forgot password and move to a new device do you lose all your chats?

As the other person stated, in theory yes, but in practice, if you are an "Apple ecosystem" participant, you usually have another Apple device available that you can auth on.

https://chatgpt.com/share/684dae83-a980-8004-8226-d6e13a673d...

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by pmarreck »

righthand wrote: post #126
pmarreck wrote: post #108

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But at least they have E2E encryption. The whole point of which is not having the key to.

The whole point is that a 3rd party (Apple) doesn’t have the key. It’s not real E2E and it’s still susceptible to government overreach.

It is not. It is real E2E. Or at least, here is my evidence (and before you balk at a chatgpt link, the links to the sources are also in there). What do you have?

https://chatgpt.com/share/684dae83-a980-8004-8226-d6e13a673d...

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by pmarreck »

danaris wrote: post #129
righthand wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole point is that a 3rd party (Apple) doesn’t have the key. It’s not real E2E and it’s still susceptible to government overreach.

Not every Apple service is E2E encrypted, but some of them (like iMessage) are, and it's 100% real E2E.

It's now way more than iMessage, especially if you opt into more:

https://chatgpt.com/share/684dae83-a980-8004-8226-d6e13a673d...

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by pmarreck »

righthand wrote: post #145
DrBenCarson wrote: post #138

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Still need your password to use the key

No Apple can unlock your phone with the master key they used to generate your phone hardware enclave key. This is how the FBI has pressured them in the past to unlock devices.

That may no longer be true.

https://chatgpt.com/share/684dae83-a980-8004-8226-d6e13a673d...

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by ZeroTalent »

thesuitonym wrote: post #176
ZeroTalent wrote: post #156

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interesting. don't malicious actors use much more advanced tools than little snitch?

Malicious actors use every tool you can imagine, and many you can't.

That's not a very nice thing to say. You don't know me.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by potato-peeler »

ImJamal wrote: post #180
potato-peeler wrote: post #119

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How does one verify all those domains are not essential to the OS?

Microsoft explains what all (most?) of the domains are for https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/windows-11...

Thanks. I think some apps do need to connect to Microsoft to deliver services like update and antivirus.

Some are used by the products itself to maintain reliability like maps and store.

Others are diagnostics, which can still be manually turned off.

Not sure why one would maintain a dedicated hosts file to block endpoints if they can simply configure this on app level itself.

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