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Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by DrBenCarson »

ffsm8 wrote: post #149
DrBenCarson wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uh…where?

You don't see them if you're already paying for all Apple services. But otherwise, you get constantly nagged to get iCloud and also sometimes for their media and gaming subscriptions Finally, what people for some reason ignore: Apple has been an advertisement company ever since their app store became the majority share of their revenue.

Ah okay yeah I have Apple One so I wouldn’t see them

Also, no, Apple makes nowhere close to a majority of its revenue from its App Store (source: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-how-apple-makes-its...)

51% are iPhone sales 9% are wearables and home device sales 8% are Mac sales 7% are iPad sales

A portion of the 25% that make up services and subscriptions is advertising, in addition to Apple Music, iCloud, Google’s search default payment (20B/yr), etc.

Apple makes less than 5% of its revenue from advertising

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by DrBenCarson »

righthand wrote: post #145
DrBenCarson wrote: post #138

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Still need your password to use the key

No Apple can unlock your phone with the master key they used to generate your phone hardware enclave key. This is how the FBI has pressured them in the past to unlock devices.

Apple claims what you’re describing is impossible

https://support.apple.com/en-ge/guide/security/sec59b0b31ff/...

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by derefnull »

lapcat wrote: post #111
RobT7k wrote: post #110

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Some Apple Apps can bypass Little Snitch though. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24838816

That was fixed long ago.

work with virtual machines shows: not all traffic may be intercepted by little snitch

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by ffsm8 »

DrBenCarson wrote: post #151
ffsm8 wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't see them if you're already paying for all Apple services. But otherwise, you get constantly nagged to get iCloud and also sometimes for their media and gaming subscriptions Finally, what people for some reason ignore: Apple has been an advertisement company ever since their app store became the majority share of their revenue.

Ah okay yeah I have Apple One so I wouldn’t see them Also, no, Apple makes nowhere close to a majority of its revenue from its App Store (source: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-how-apple-makes-its... ) 51% are iPhone sales 9% are wearables and home device sales 8% are Mac sales 7% are iPad sales A portion of the 25% that make up services and subscriptions is advertising, in addition to Apple Music, iCloud,…

Oof, I meant to write "a majority share", not the.

I still believe that to be true, as you're splitting the advertisement revenue - in my opinion, all app store revenue is related to their advertisement business.

From my perspective, only counting the money that went into the advert itself is misleading, as the store itself is what the adverts are shown on.

If it was a more general advertisement network I'd agree with your splitting though.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by DrBenCarson »

ffsm8 wrote: post #154
DrBenCarson wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah okay yeah I have Apple One so I wouldn’t see them Also, no, Apple makes nowhere close to a majority of its revenue from its App Store (source: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-how-apple-makes-its... ) 51% are iPhone sales 9% are wearables and home device sales 8% are Mac sales 7% are iPad sales A portion of the 25% that make up services and subscriptions is advertising, in addition to Apple Music, iCloud,…

Oof, I meant to write "a majority share", not the . I still believe that to be true, as you're splitting the advertisement revenue - in my opinion, all app store revenue is related to their advertisement business. From my perspective, only counting the money that went into the advert itself is misleading, as the store itself is what the adverts are shown on. If it was a more general advertisement network I'd agree wi…

No, that is how Apple split them. There is no ad revenue in any segment outside of services. “Belief” is not necessary, this is accounting

I’m a shareholder, I read the reports. Apple make 70%+ of their revenue from direct device sales (no one else comes close to them)

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by ZeroTalent »

thesuitonym wrote: post #131
dev_hugepages wrote: post #103

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Do you have a story to tell us?

I don't have a story but Little Snitch is the kind of tool most corporate users don't need, but that many malicious actors love to use. Sort of like running nmap on your computer, yeah there are legitimate reasons to do so, but you will get a call from IT if you try it.

interesting. don't malicious actors use much more advanced tools than little snitch?

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by daveguy »

ffsm8 wrote: post #150
daveguy wrote: post #136

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And none of the items in the original thread post were about telemetry. They were about functional requirements.

I guess you didn't read the article then, there are entries for telemetry. He even helpfully listed the official use case next to the domain name that was accessed.

Thread post. Not article post. Try to keep up.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by JCattheATM »

daveguy wrote: post #136
JCattheATM wrote: post #112

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No it isn't. The context is telemetry and spying, not built in advertising.

And none of the items in the original thread post were about telemetry. They were about functional requirements.

That's a stretch, but giving the benefit of the doubt, you alone say potahto, most here are saying potato.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by throw564367h »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #54

As so many other people have also said, many Apple services like iCloud sync require a lot of network I/O. I use two iPads, one with 64G of storage and the other with 1 terabyte of storage. Applications and data frequently get offloaded and reloaded on my old iPad. I appreciate hand-off, and accept the overhead for supporting that. Most data is encrypted at rest on Apple's servers and during transport. Check their do…

Same with Xiaomi products. Their products are all integrated together and communicate with one another.

Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use

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Post by theoreticalmal »

daveguy wrote: post #101
neogodless wrote: post #90

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This is a very valid criticism of my post and many that group "opinions" as if they come from a single source. Here, the top-voted comment is OK with Apple software phoning home, but there's no evidence they are not equally OK with Microsoft software phoning home, so I'm contrasting this popular opinion with another popular opinion elsewhere. Here's one example from a different user, where Microsoft is described as "…

Microsoft put ads in their OS menus. Kindof a stretch to "both sides" this one.

Plus, the ads for Apple are like “buy our cloud storage solution” and the ads for MS are like “10 foods to make you SEXY this summer!” I’m not a fan of either, but one is significantly worse than the other
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