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I’ve owned both.
Then why don’t you tell us about them bother instead of sounding like a shill?
1 Year with an Energica Ribelle by NewZeroland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne2GfBkxH2c
Good move, but another thing this brand does is charge you a monthly subscription to unlock the full battery range on your bike. If you don’t pay, you lug around a dead weight extra battery you cannot access. Overall this brand is notoriously unfriendly to consumers.
Zero SR/F owner here. I was also put off by this before buying a Zero. They did back off of this a bit, but most of the stuff floating around online is from when they initially did it. Now, if you purchase any premium Zero like the SRF and SRS, every software upgrade comes unlocked and is apart of your purchase as you’d expect. If you purchase their cheaper tier models like the DS and SR, then the “upgrades” can be s…
Seems like it could allow higher quality and cheaper products because they don't have to spend the money on keeping track of multiple hardware versions. Fewer models means the ones that do exist will be more tested and mass produced.
Then again, I've never ridden a motorcycle or even a bike, maybe things are different.
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Oh my god, this should be illegal. What an environmental waste to block what hardware can do for business reasons, is there any global lobby fighting bullshit like this?
This kind of thing has existed forever. Cars are starting to do it, too, as it gets cheaper to make them all the same and disable some features in software. HEVs also use only about 50% of the battery to reduce wear on it (go from 30 to 80 charge, no more).
The evil here is purely "pay monthly to unlock a configuration option", not the existence of such wear limiters. And that part is new.
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Not sure that's fair - the battery packs come with a 5 year warranty. If you increase the 'full range' - you're increasing the odds you'll need to claim on that, which needs paying for.
If they was true, they could stipulate that enabling full range would void the warranty. This is obviously a cash grab.
Are there any OEMs whose service manuals are hard to find? I restore cars and motorcycles and have never had trouble finding a pdf or hard copy for around $20. Its good that they are doing this though a lot of the secrets I’d want to know about an electric motorcycle are about the ECU when that software is some of the most tightly guarded of any.
BMW no longer sells service manuals for their bikes. There are, essentially, bootlegs on line, but my understanding is that while before they had a dedicated Window application for their manuals, they're moving to an online only system, and only for dealers. So, while there are manuals floating around now, who knows how that will go moving forward. Obviously, this will be a key sticking point in the future with the "…
Off topic, but does anyone make simple electric motorcycles? You know, a frame, battery, motor, etc., but without a connected app and all the goo that comes with it.
You can always build one yourself. Buy an older bike for the frame and VIN, swap in a motor and a battery pack along with the rest of the controller stuff and you are good to go.
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> > My stock Energica does 0-60 in 2.8s. Should I be impressed? That's the same of a 1999 Yamaha R6 selling for less than 1000$ [0] And the R6 can do it all day, you'll run out of tires before you run out of clutch and gas. The Energica does it once and then it's panting and overheating. And as always the point in motorsport is that every noob squid and every idiot is capable of going fast in a straight line, the lig…
The R6 is an inline 4, 15500rpm red line, 68nm of torque. Fun bike, on a track or doing illegal speeds on the road. Rest of the time, it has no power. The Enigica has 215nm of torque, about twice the 2022 R1. The R6, the power is all up top, it’s gutless down low, you have to be up near the top in the rev range for it to go, engine screaming away. You’d also need to be pretty skilled at launching to get that 2.8s acc…