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How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by rqtwteye »

alwayslikethis wrote: post #168
rqtwteye wrote: post #42

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I wish we just used “they” always. I am fine with people not wanting certain pronouns but I find it very tedious to track different pronouns in my head. Especially in a professional setting gender shouldn’t matter at all.

My pet peeve about using "they" is it seems to imply an undue politeness or superiority. Plurality is an ancient metaphor for power, and many languages today have the same form for a plural "you" and a polite "you". Another example is the royal "we".

I would be fine with "it" instead of "they" :-)

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Post by twelve40 »

as_bntd wrote: post #177

I expected to read an article about actually owning an airline in 3 easy steps. :(

I too was at first annoyed by a bit of an overhyping in the title and the overall style as well, until I remembered how it felt when you discovered something yourself, or even just read a good clever report from someone else. You get this rush that this is the coolest craftiest thing in the world.

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Post by ConfuSomu »

CSSer wrote: post #209
ripdog wrote: post #179

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Perhaps this is just my autism speaking, but am I the only one who gets completely freaked out by sentences like the above? "It" refers to inanimate objects, things which can't have free will, do crimes, or be prosecuted. It's almost like you're talking about how a lawnmower decided to run a child over and then incriminate itself by boasting about it on social media. It makes no sense! I know she picked that pronoun…

I wonder what the motivation was. Anarchism is mentioned elsewhere, so if I wonder if that’s a motivating factor here. At any rate, I appreciate that people are trying their best to be respectful. Personally, I’d also prefer to use “she” if that’s alright with her (it?). This becomes confusing quickly when we’re also trying to use it abstractly to refer to arguments and concepts.

it uses both pronouns: she/her and it/its, as written on her website[1].

[1]: https://maia.crimew.gay/

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Post by mproud »

zeveb wrote: post #183
culi wrote: post #106

> Suspected members of the IRA, the Irish paramilitary organization, were also on the list. Oof the international politics always come out in things like this. Twitter also publicizes all of its suspensions and bans. There's a Wikipedia article with a list of all the notable suspensions since 2010. It's interesting to see that, contrary to popular narratives, many of the international groups banned were actually far-…

> The last notable ban was Paul Graham for simply sharing their Mastodon handle. Paul Graham is a man, not a plural entity.

A very modern convention is now using “they/their” when a person may not be aware of someone’s preferred pronoun. And even still, I have also seen people abandon gendered pronouns entirely.

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Post by mproud »

twelve40 wrote: post #207
ohbleek wrote: post #201

I had always assumed that the “no fly” list was a phrase and that it didn’t refer to an actual list, but rather a database with more detailed information than a “can they fly?” Column with a Y/N entry. In pharmacy we have a database we have to access when we suspect there is abuse, fraud, or diversion of controlled substances. The database is regularly updated with current information about prescriptions that were di…

yeah, surprised as well. In finance, there is ofac for people forbidden from moving money, but it's also typically used as a service/db instead of passing around csv files to everyone. Very bizarre.

Could this have been an export given to someone upon request? Or maybe served as backup?

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Post by ripdog »

CSSer wrote: post #209
ripdog wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps this is just my autism speaking, but am I the only one who gets completely freaked out by sentences like the above? "It" refers to inanimate objects, things which can't have free will, do crimes, or be prosecuted. It's almost like you're talking about how a lawnmower decided to run a child over and then incriminate itself by boasting about it on social media. It makes no sense! I know she picked that pronoun…

I wonder what the motivation was. Anarchism is mentioned elsewhere, so if I wonder if that’s a motivating factor here. At any rate, I appreciate that people are trying their best to be respectful. Personally, I’d also prefer to use “she” if that’s alright with her (it?). This becomes confusing quickly when we’re also trying to use it abstractly to refer to arguments and concepts.

I totally understand wanting to be respectful, but respect goes both ways. She needs to respect the fact that her odd pronouns are literally breaking the English language for people who want to use them.

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Post by tbossanova »

ripdog wrote: post #174
easrng wrote: post #129

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it isn't a guy and it uses it/its pronouns.

What? "It" identifies as an inanimate object? This neopronoun thing really is getting absurd.

Absurd? Maybe, but I’d hate a life without any absurdity.

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Post by AngriestLettuce »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #124
lmm wrote: post #55

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> If someone was on a no fly list and they wanted the general public to know, they could just put it out there themselves. No? How would they know? How would they prove it? There's a known case a few years ago where a woman was trapped away from the US for 3 years - her estranged husband put her on the list when she went to visit her parents, and boom, she's not allowed into the US and no-one will tell her why, makin…

>There's a known case a few years ago where a woman was trapped away from the US for 3 years - her estranged husband put her on the list when she went to visit her parents, and boom, she's not allowed into the US and no-one will tell her why, making it easy for him to get divorced and keep the house. How does one "put her on the list"? It's not that easy.

Just because things should work a certain way doesn't mean they do.

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Post by driverdan »

ripdog wrote: post #208
driverdan wrote: post #202

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I find it particularly amusing that you used the wrong pronoun while scolding me to use the correct pronouns for her. If that doesn't prove the impracticality of using "it" as a pronoun, I don't know what does. It breaks the rules of English that we all understand subconsciously, so it's difficult to do without consciously thinking about every single usage of a pronoun in a sentence, which is not how most people type…

I use the word "they" in that context all the time regardless of gender or pronoun. I actually thought about that before using it. It's a common use of the word "they" in casual English.
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