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How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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infoseek12 wrote: post #36
ericpauley wrote: post #7

This is clearly on the darker side of gray-hat. Hate to be preachy but anyone seeking to emulate this sort of attack-finding should consider their ethical obligations as a computer scientist and follow best practices for responsible disclosure. It appears this was completely ignored here, including sharing stolen sensitive data of normal people with whoever can plead a case.

And incidentally some of it is entirely illegal but sense she is already facing extradition for a federal indictment - in for a penny, in for a pound.

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Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by tekla »

a_t48 wrote: post #18
Waterluvian wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m curious to learn: if “they” is being added to style guides as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender, is “it” the same or is there a somewhat different meaning behind the usage?

No - please do not use "it" as a catch-all pronoun for an unknown person. "It" is generally a dehumanizing term for a transgender person - though a minority use it as a pronoun (in those cases, go for it).

Bullshit. Why is a word that explicitly removes all identity connotations randomly dehumanization? Its one of the most neutral ways of indicating another, In the same way that "comrade" is.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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vunicipna wrote: post #148

Interesting hack, but this seems quite the brazen confession to a fair number of computer crimes. If I were the author, I'd be worried about getting arrested and potentially extradited for this. Especially as he deliberately downloaded a load of confidential information after gaining access, and then shared it around. He'd be looking at years in prison for this, in the US.

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Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by ripdog »

easrng wrote: post #129
arcastroe wrote: post #127

This guy is a (hobbyist?) security researcher who responsibly alerts companies of vulnerabilities. However are his actions of downloading the no fly list and offering to share with journalists legal? Or does that cross into overreach and criminal activity?

it isn't a guy and it uses it/its pronouns.

What? "It" identifies as an inanimate object? This neopronoun thing really is getting absurd.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by intelVISA »

personjerry wrote: post #3

> with pretty much no skill required Seriously? I know like none of the tools or terms they used, like wtf is shodan? In general the author doesn't seem to follow the white hat guidelines, and I'd be worried what they've done is quite illegal (possibly on a federal level if the nofly list is so secret)

Hosting public facing Jenkins should be illegal tbh

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by unsupp0rted »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #100
Waterluvian wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m curious to learn: if “they” is being added to style guides as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender, is “it” the same or is there a somewhat different meaning behind the usage?

I once saw someone who goes by “it” explain that it liked “it” because it has a sort of ungendered quality to it, whereas “they” is instead gender- neutral . It explained that we use “they” to refer to humans because we assume humans are gendered, and the implied gender is the quality that makes “they” (or for that matter “he” or “she”) implicitly refer to a human. But it rejects the notion humans must be gendered, o…

This is exhausting. I wish we could simplify English so that all beings use a single pronoun, and be done with it.

This one’s that gender, this one’s neutral gender, this one’s genderless… who cares.

If gender or plurality is key to the sentence we can add a word.

I like how in Indonesian to make a word plural you double it: pencil pencil = multiple pencils

Can we come up with a pronoun that literally means “the being or beings in question” without commenting on gender or plurality?

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by DonutLord9 »

kuschku wrote: post #50
toss1 wrote: post #22

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>>demonstrate they will use it responsibly. The problem is to define "demonstrate" and the criteria. Remember the gatekeeper is now an unemployed gal who "know lot's of things about cyber security" according to her main page. Seems likely a competent bad actor could easily impersonate a well-meaning reporter... Yes, security through obscurity isn't security, but this also seems incredibly irresponsible for any "secur…

Please give maia the respect she deserves and use the correct pronouns.

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Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by ripdog »

WatchDog wrote: post #98
ericpauley wrote: post #7

This is clearly on the darker side of gray-hat. Hate to be preachy but anyone seeking to emulate this sort of attack-finding should consider their ethical obligations as a computer scientist and follow best practices for responsible disclosure. It appears this was completely ignored here, including sharing stolen sensitive data of normal people with whoever can plead a case.

Seems to making it's prosecutors jobs really easy, by incriminating itself.

Perhaps this is just my autism speaking, but am I the only one who gets completely freaked out by sentences like the above? "It" refers to inanimate objects, things which can't have free will, do crimes, or be prosecuted.

It's almost like you're talking about how a lawnmower decided to run a child over and then incriminate itself by boasting about it on social media. It makes no sense!

I know she picked that pronoun herself, but I really wish she didn't. It just makes communication difficult.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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alwayslikethis wrote: post #168
rqtwteye wrote: post #42

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I wish we just used “they” always. I am fine with people not wanting certain pronouns but I find it very tedious to track different pronouns in my head. Especially in a professional setting gender shouldn’t matter at all.

My pet peeve about using "they" is it seems to imply an undue politeness or superiority. Plurality is an ancient metaphor for power, and many languages today have the same form for a plural "you" and a polite "you". Another example is the royal "we".

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