I had always assumed that the “no fly” list was a phrase and that it didn’t refer to an actual list, but rather a database with more detailed information than a “can they fly?” Column with a Y/N entry. In pharmacy we have a database we have to access when we suspect there is abuse, fraud, or diversion of controlled substances. The database is regularly updated with current information about prescriptions that were dispensed including location, prescribing physician, etc. I had always assumed the “no fly” list would be something similar. Now that I think about it though, that wouldn’t be efficient or useful at all. It would make sense for it to be much more simple.
How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way
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Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way
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Seems to making it's prosecutors jobs really easy, by incriminating itself.
Perhaps this is just my autism speaking, but am I the only one who gets completely freaked out by sentences like the above? "It" refers to inanimate objects, things which can't have free will, do crimes, or be prosecuted. It's almost like you're talking about how a lawnmower decided to run a child over and then incriminate itself by boasting about it on social media. It makes no sense! I know she picked that pronoun…
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
As an Australian, we seemed to develop a culture of calling everyone 'mate' regardless of gender etc. Helps since I can't ever remember a persons name, even after they've said it directly to my face. I've got no issue with people wanting to use different pronouns, though usually I try to keep it neutral in conversation anyway. "They/their" is extremely easy to use without much thought.
Actually, also as an Australian: Australia is a country where you call your mates "cunt" and call cunts "mate".
Actually, also as an Australian:
I'm pretty sure this is one of those things that's true in the Northern half* of the country that people think applies everywhere, like crocodiles and jellyfish that kill you. I've lived in SA and Vic all my life and all my friends would just be insulted if I called them cunt instead of mate.
* "Northern Half" of course meaning above the Barassi Line and probably adding the NT, not the real geographic north.
Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way
#204This is clearly on the darker side of gray-hat. Hate to be preachy but anyone seeking to emulate this sort of attack-finding should consider their ethical obligations as a computer scientist and follow best practices for responsible disclosure. It appears this was completely ignored here, including sharing stolen sensitive data of normal people with whoever can plead a case.
You have it backwards. Ethical obligations mean unethical things like government blacklists should be leaked in their entirety.
Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way
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Am I missing something? It seems Maia didn't share the data at all, and only offers to if someone can demonstrate they will use it responsibly. Moreover, depending on the contents of the list, this likely offers proof of what is generally suspected, that the no fly list is a form of discrimination and authoritarian overreach, targeting people that haven't been convicted of a crime but are "suspected" due to race, rel…
> Maia didn't share the data at all You literally immediately falsified that assertion: > and only offers to if someone can demonstrate they will use it responsibly. And nobody ever lies of course.
She had only shared it with known journalists that she had a relationship at time of writing, and seems pretty bright.
Hypothetically she might get scammed by someone and irresponsibly disclose but let's not condemn her for it yet.
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> down to other more selfish reasons, e.g. Edward Snowden's mass theft and leaking of NSA secrets. What was Snowden's selfish reasons?
Snowden was a compromised asset of Russia, working for them. Most of what he released had nothing to do with his stated purpose. People have all kinds of reasons for doing that sort of thing. Sometimes they really believe in the other country, sometimes it's entirely selfish. We won't know even if he says something on the topic, since we can never know his mind, and he'd demonstrated that he's dishonest.
> Snowden was a compromised asset of Russia, working for them.
So Snowden was a Russian asset, who wanted to go against Russia by leaking information about a US surveillance program, and then after failing being a Russian asset, went back to Russia...??
I'm having a lot of trouble with this line of logic, can you point me to something credible on this?
I can 100% believe there was a selfish purpose, but this doesn't seem like it.
Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way
#207I had always assumed that the “no fly” list was a phrase and that it didn’t refer to an actual list, but rather a database with more detailed information than a “can they fly?” Column with a Y/N entry. In pharmacy we have a database we have to access when we suspect there is abuse, fraud, or diversion of controlled substances. The database is regularly updated with current information about prescriptions that were di…
yeah, surprised as well. In finance, there is ofac for people forbidden from moving money, but it's also typically used as a service/db instead of passing around csv files to everyone. Very bizarre.
Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way
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Perhaps this is just my autism speaking, but am I the only one who gets completely freaked out by sentences like the above? "It" refers to inanimate objects, things which can't have free will, do crimes, or be prosecuted. It's almost like you're talking about how a lawnmower decided to run a child over and then incriminate itself by boasting about it on social media. It makes no sense! I know she picked that pronoun…
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I find it particularly amusing that you used the wrong pronoun while scolding me to use the correct pronouns for her.
If that doesn't prove the impracticality of using "it" as a pronoun, I don't know what does.
It breaks the rules of English that we all understand subconsciously, so it's difficult to do without consciously thinking about every single usage of a pronoun in a sentence, which is not how most people type.
Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems to making it's prosecutors jobs really easy, by incriminating itself.
Perhaps this is just my autism speaking, but am I the only one who gets completely freaked out by sentences like the above? "It" refers to inanimate objects, things which can't have free will, do crimes, or be prosecuted. It's almost like you're talking about how a lawnmower decided to run a child over and then incriminate itself by boasting about it on social media. It makes no sense! I know she picked that pronoun…
I wonder what the motivation was. Anarchism is mentioned elsewhere, so if I wonder if that’s a motivating factor here. At any rate, I appreciate that people are trying their best to be respectful. Personally, I’d also prefer to use “she” if that’s alright with her (it?). This becomes confusing quickly when we’re also trying to use it abstractly to refer to arguments and concepts.
Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way
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Same way you learn nouns in German. (Die/der/das are genders).
What if someone wants something else? If they demand dixyzx? What if they demand custom declensions on verbs that involve them?
It's really not that hard to keep a mental lookup table for each person and their custom pronouns and declensions.
Another pretty elegant solution I've found if there's too much confusion amongst our team is to suggest people switch to learning Hungarian which doesn't have gendered pronouns. A few years of intense study is a small price to pay so that we can avoid the catastrophic mistakes of accidentally calling someone who's not in the room the wrong gender