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Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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My friend, you are not lost -- you are free. From what I can tell, you have your health, your youth (35 is still young) and you have some savings. If you don't have a mortgage, kids, a spouse, and a job you cannot leave, then you are free. The next step is to see the world. Get a one-way ticket to Chiang Mai and try to stay as long as possible. Learn the language, get a scooter, and talk to people. Live close to the…

I will attest to this being quite poor advice. I think the OP is well aware that a cheap exotic vacation and a scooter are not going to fill the gap he feels.

It is not poor advice. Travel has always rebooted my outlook on life, the way I see things. It is essental.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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I do not mean to tear down OP, but you are 35 and have $500k in savings. You lived in other countries, had startups and worked at a big company. You are not lost, you are one of the 1%. It sounds like you did a lot and now "normal" life that the rest of have to go through seems sucky. It is. I have years of experience, not 1/5th your savings, have not traveled and now I am actually too old for "big company" to hire m…

Wow I just wanted to say thanks for this comment.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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Have you asked your parents yet? They have a lot more experience being old than you.

I'd try talking to old people other than your parents. By now he should know what to expect from them and he should also have found out how he differs from them.

It's not either/or of course, you can do both. But I'll add that even at 35 you probably don't have a full understanding of your parents, even if you think you do. These are real people with ~35 more years of life experience than OP. Don't underestimate them.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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I am 43 and share a lot of your struggles. I find that avoiding alcohol and drugs improves my outlook a lot, but it takes a while, same for getting physically fit. Then the trick is finding some fulfilling thing to do, finish a triathlon, write a book, travel, join local government, teach, make a game or side project. Some creative goal to work towards.

Good luck

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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Glad this works for you, but humans are not all the same. Dont assume what makes you happy also makes other people happy. This is akin to telling somebody with depression to 'Cheer Up'.

Being an introvert does not remove your monkey brain’s need for social connection. Sure, it means being deliberate about when/how/who, but most people leading a solitary life are not happy.

Thankyou for confirming my point by using the word 'most'. It is rimportant to remember the group of people (however small) who operates outside of what is percieved as 'normal'.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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Mourning the loss of one’s youth is pretty typical. You lose a step. You didn’t do what you hoped you would do. You wasted your time. So forth and so on.

Don’t worry. It gets better. This is all part of the process of life.

My recommendation is that you read Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl.

“He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how.”

I’m 52 here. I was a prolific programmer in my 20s. A go-go marketer in my 30s. For the last 10 years, I’ve run a business that I love with two partners who have taken advantage of me at every turn. The last two years neither has worked and yet they get paid.

Do I feel lost or depressed? Absolutely not.

I love life. I have an amazing family to whom I am utterly devoted. I volunteer for stuff. I do cool things every day. If I feel bored, I make things with my hands or engage in other creative pursuits. I focus on the moment and others more than anything else and all the rest just goes away.

How is this possible? I’ve filled my life with reasons to live.

In fact, I have so many now that there is no room for worry about what I have and haven’t done. And in doing so, I realize that none of that matters anyway.

My mom died at 52 after taking a header down a flight of stairs. My grandfather died at 56 after getting stabbed in the belly by my grandmother (she was psychotic).

Our naked existence is laughable. Everything can be lost in an instant.

Dive into the why and you can deal with any how.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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"But not anymore now. I feel like my time for everything is running out." -> what is this everything you want to have time for? Do you wish to be in a relationship? since you mentioned it at the beginning. When I don't feel excited about the world, similar to what you describe, you meditate or spend time in nature. Reading about geology or trees has opened my eyes about how little we grasp about the nature of the uni…

> what is this everything you want to have time for? Do you wish to be in a relationship? since you mentioned it at the beginning. I don't know to be honest. Perhaps what's nagging at me is the lack of optionality. There are certain things I am now too old to do, like go to a school as typical student, go crazy at festival or clubs, go backpacking and easily meet new people, and have casual relationships. It's not th…

I can resonate with this. What I remind myself when I have these thoughts is:

A) Life is like an evolving game with many rounds. Some doors close in your 20s, other doors open in 30s and so on. See what interests you outside and off the screen, once you find this, connect with other people who like to do it. For eg. in my city a lot of tech workers are into bouldering and hiking. You will see as you make friends in your age group, there is a whole bunch of new doors opening now that you are in your 30s.

B) Actually most of the things you list are totally still doable even _if_ you did want to do them. School as a typical student maybe not, but why be typical? I've met backpackers in their 60s, age truly is just a number.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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Nope; social life is important. I find that I get overwhelmed and drained with large groups, but doing things with a group small enough to fit in a car together is fine. I personally have some hobbies I enjoy for their own sake, and meeting people through those has been rewarding. It’s good to have a mix of “close friends” who you can be open and will support you emotionally, and “activity buddies” who you can geek o…

Glad this works for you, but humans are not all the same. Dont assume what makes you happy also makes other people happy. This is akin to telling somebody with depression to 'Cheer Up'.

> This is akin to telling somebody with depression to 'Cheer Up'.

If you feel this way, please try to see it as "telling somebody with depression to pick the activity that seems less painful to do and go do it".

It is possible for that depressed person to not be able to do it yet. However, unlike your 'cheer up' example, this is actionable advise that is very likely to (slowly) help lead that person out of the depression if they manage to do it.

I'm an introvert and it works like that for me. I hardly ever feel like socializing. It drains me when I do it. Yet I still enjoy it when I'm doing it and it has a positive effect on my mental state (up to a point, of course).

The key is to find the right balance, and to be aware that there's some "training" to it: the less you do it the harder it gets. Don't give up though because then your mental health may suffer.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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It sounds to me a lot like you've prioritized your professional life over everything else - no wonder you're feeling empty. You need to focus on you, make social connections, join social groups, get out there and make your life more than work. Once you have some fulfilling relationships none of this other stuff will seem important to you.

Given you have 500k, you could also easily take off a year and just do awesome things and meet people. 35 isn't old either. Not even remotely. You must be living a fairly insular life to think so.

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