California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in

Post by jandrese » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:05 PM UTC

tromp wrote: post #106

junon wrote: post #3

Intuit is such an evil company. Now that I've moved to Germany, I know what it feels like not to have to file every year (I still have to for the US but it's trivial now due to FIEC). There's nobody hounding you here, no stress regarding your taxes unless you're filing for a return or have extenuating circumstances, and even then there's a government-provided online portal for direct communication with the Finanzamt…

Why assign all the blame to Intuit? > They persuaded the Internal Revenue Service for more than a decade to pledge in writing not to adopt California’s innovation or develop any other offerings that threatened their business model. I think the IRS deserves much of the blame for yielding to Intuit's persuasion. Every American should be upset with both Intuit and the IRS.

Post by slg » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:06 PM UTC

nielsbot wrote: post #206

slg wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intuit is lobbying in defense of their entire industry. Almost every company of their size would do the same thing in their situation. The people who deserve the blame here are the people who are susceptible to those lobbying efforts. Blame Congress.

I blame the rules that let this happen. In general, people are gonna people.

Post by slobiwan » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:16 PM UTC

failrate wrote: post #38

mettamage wrote: post #14

Dutchie here, never had an issue with tax returns in my country. You just go to the website, fill it in, done. I don't get the context at all. Is the ELI5: CA wanted to create their own tax return software. Intuit said no, and now they use Intuit or something? Normally I understand context and such, but in this case: isn't it the obvious thing to do? Does the USA not have the back of their citizens? I'm sorry to say…

California offers the typical international option: they'll send you your estimated annual taxes, and you just jave to correct them if there's a discrepancy. This was supposed to be the default option for Californian state taxes. Instead, Intuit's army of lobbyists managed to almost get rid of it. It is now an opt in for people that is not advertised or easy to find on the gov website. Intuit's business model is maki…

Post by jaywalk » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:18 PM UTC

tehwebguy wrote: post #158

tromp wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why assign all the blame to Intuit? > They persuaded the Internal Revenue Service for more than a decade to pledge in writing not to adopt California’s innovation or develop any other offerings that threatened their business model. I think the IRS deserves much of the blame for yielding to Intuit's persuasion. Every American should be upset with both Intuit and the IRS.

On the federal level almost every bad thing that happens and good thing that doesn't happen is the fault of the senate.

Post by frockington1 » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:19 PM UTC

mullen wrote: post #205

nightski wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe it's a common theme with California's draconian politics being ineffective.

Or maybe you are wrong and California's "draconian politics" are being effective and corporations are scared of that.