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California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in

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Re: California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in

#11
Not a great comment, but I misread the title and was really interested in what the Inuit people had against easier taxes.

Edit: I love how this is getting downvoted really fast. I feel like everyone is skimming and misunderstanding what I said :D

Re: California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in

#12

This is why I always pirate TurboTax and deleted my Mint years ago. Fuck intuit. Oh and before someone asks me why I feel comfortable doing that security wise...I do it on an airgapped machine and print the return out and mail it in. Ezpz

Also why I was disappointed when Intuit bought Credit Karma.

I will never use Turbo Tax, just out of principle. I cannot support a company like that.

Re: California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in

#13

Intuit is the worst kind of company, but anyone who has dealt with the tax authorities in California would probably tell you to take the state's stated intentions with a grain of salt, or 1000. The California FTB would love to tell you how much money it thinks you owe them, have you not question them, and make your life hell if you think they messed up. While it's fair to say that lower-income W2 taxpayers are probab…

> The California FTB would love to tell you how much money it thinks you owe them, have you not question them, and make your life hell if you think they messed up.

Isn't this already the case? They know how much they think you owe. The only difference now is if you will out the form differently and they disagree they can also accuse you of intentional defrauding them.

Re: California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in

#14
Dutchie here, never had an issue with tax returns in my country. You just go to the website, fill it in, done.

I don't get the context at all. Is the ELI5:

CA wanted to create their own tax return software. Intuit said no, and now they use Intuit or something?

Normally I understand context and such, but in this case: isn't it the obvious thing to do? Does the USA not have the back of their citizens?

I'm sorry to say it so charged but this seems desperately simple on what ought to be done here.

Re: California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in

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At the risk of being a non-popular opinion, I don't find tax filing to be particularly difficult. Maybe its because my job is to solve pretty hard problems all day. But the average person/family who doesn't itemize have a Sched C, it's quite easy. The thing to understand about filing is that (particularly for W2 wage earners) you're not telling the Government how much you made and how much you owe. They know that alr…

So? Because you find something easy, the rest of the country is supposed to be okay with a large company lobbying for less QoL for them?

Re: California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in

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post #8

At the risk of being a non-popular opinion, I don't find tax filing to be particularly difficult. Maybe its because my job is to solve pretty hard problems all day. But the average person/family who doesn't itemize have a Sched C, it's quite easy. The thing to understand about filing is that (particularly for W2 wage earners) you're not telling the Government how much you made and how much you owe. They know that alr…

Filing taxes isn't especially difficult. Knowing that filing taxes isn't especially difficult is not so easy.

If you have absolutely no clue how it works, you're probably going to have to pay someone to do it for you.

Re: California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in

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post #3

Intuit is such an evil company. Now that I've moved to Germany, I know what it feels like not to have to file every year (I still have to for the US but it's trivial now due to FIEC). There's nobody hounding you here, no stress regarding your taxes unless you're filing for a return or have extenuating circumstances, and even then there's a government-provided online portal for direct communication with the Finanzamt…

> "there's a government-provided online portal for direct communication with the Finanzamt (finance department)."

A government provided portal?! Surely this is a case of government over-reach: directly competing with hard working private-sector businesses (tax accountants, tax software makers), destroying jobs and stifling innovation? It would never be allowed in freedom-loving America!

/s

Re: California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in

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post #7
post #3

Intuit is such an evil company. Now that I've moved to Germany, I know what it feels like not to have to file every year (I still have to for the US but it's trivial now due to FIEC). There's nobody hounding you here, no stress regarding your taxes unless you're filing for a return or have extenuating circumstances, and even then there's a government-provided online portal for direct communication with the Finanzamt…

But only für employees! As an independent or small company owner you have todo it every year.

In most cases your tax consultant does that for you and what they charge is regulated.

Re: California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in

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This is why I always pirate TurboTax and deleted my Mint years ago. Fuck intuit. Oh and before someone asks me why I feel comfortable doing that security wise...I do it on an airgapped machine and print the return out and mail it in. Ezpz

This just reminded me to go back and delete my Mint account.

The process wouldn't complete in Firefox, I had to use Edge.

Re: California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in

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post #8

At the risk of being a non-popular opinion, I don't find tax filing to be particularly difficult. Maybe its because my job is to solve pretty hard problems all day. But the average person/family who doesn't itemize have a Sched C, it's quite easy. The thing to understand about filing is that (particularly for W2 wage earners) you're not telling the Government how much you made and how much you owe. They know that alr…

> They know that already and calculate it in your account. You're acknowledging that debt to them.

But that’s part of the problem. What is the purpose of making people acknowledge that debt? Why not send a bill showing the calculation that the government already knows? Even if it’s just a few hours, accumulate that for every person that pays taxes for every year of their adult life and now you’re wasting millions of person hours just to let a couple of companies sell products/services that are not really needed.

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