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CCP does have a lot of room to improve in protecting human rights. But to be fair, for the matter of national security, every country takes the extreme measure. Look at the Assange case. Neither Swedish nor US government makes any sense to me.
Assange will get a fair trial, does the PRC know what a fair trial is?
You call that a fair trial?
I live on the other side of the world, but this still strikes a deep chord with me. I'm Swedish, born and raised in Gothenburg. After the Umbrella protests in 2014 five people connected to the Causeway Bay Books store in Hong Kong disappeared. One of them is a naturalized Swedish citizen, his daughter was raised in my home town. He is now imprisoned and can't communicate with his daughter, or with the Swedish authori…
> This is a small world, whether we like it or not, and letting authoritarian stuff like this extradition treaty to a dictatorship slide A while ago a plane arrived in Fiji half-filled with Chinese police officers. They arrested 77 supposedly Chinese nationals, put them on the plane, and took them back to China. This was all extra-judicial. None of the 77 were arrested, charged, or convicted by the Fijian justice sys…
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> the Chinese government typically doesn't compromise at all under pressure. This isn't the central government of China. The government in question is the government of the Hong Kong SAR.
Yeah, but obviously the Chief Executive simply takes Beijing's order for all such big movements.
I strongly believe that the people of Hong Kong should have the right to self-determinism. There is nobody alive who has lived under Chinese rule in Hong Kong. For reference, I am British. I hope that someday Hong Kong can be recognized as a country in its own right.
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Assange will get a fair trial, does the PRC know what a fair trial is?
“Fair” is a big word. It will likely not be fully public, for a start. China is undoubtedly the worst offender, when it comes to the right to a fair trial; but let’s not pretend “our” countries cannot stack the deck when they feel it’s necessary.
Here's my take: people living in democratic societies have this powerful weapon called free and fair election. Furthermore, independent judiciary and the rule of law. All of their constitutions have some kind of bill of rights built in, and the governments, by and large dare not cross the legal boundaries or it's almost certain that there will be consequences. If these checks and balances are not enough due to prosecutors stacking their deck with heavily financed teams of lawyers, enacting or reviving controversial laws, the civil societies are fully able to demand change, and action it during elections. While we should not pretend that democracies are perfect, let's also not pretend they are totally useless. Change can happen quickly if enough people want it to. On the hand, China after Tiananmen, has expanded its state power so much, its control of information so effective, its surveillance system so encompassing, and its civil resistance so shattered, its policies has bribed so many people, it's almost impossible to effect any substantial change without a total collapse of the regime.
Saying or implying democracies are just as bad as totalitarian regimes like the PRC risks spreading hopelessness that the people in democratic countries cannot change things. So I hope the next time people bring up this comparison, have some proportion, some perspectives in mind, and think about what they can do to better their governments, instead of just conveniently dismissing the value of democracies.
I live on the other side of the world, but this still strikes a deep chord with me. I'm Swedish, born and raised in Gothenburg. After the Umbrella protests in 2014 five people connected to the Causeway Bay Books store in Hong Kong disappeared. One of them is a naturalized Swedish citizen, his daughter was raised in my home town. He is now imprisoned and can't communicate with his daughter, or with the Swedish authori…
CCP does have a lot of room to improve in protecting human rights. But to be fair, for the matter of national security, every country takes the extreme measure. Look at the Assange case. Neither Swedish nor US government makes any sense to me.
I wish they could use the Official Figure as 2M and 1. The 1 was tribute to the one died in protest of the bill [0]. R.I.P And I don't think the photos aren't what 2M people in the City really looks like. Here are few better ones. And thank you everyone who supported us, even if you are not in HK, it is still much appreciated. [0] https://time.com/5607742/hong-kong-protester-dies-anti-extra... [1] https://ibb.co/WtLM…
Your link [1] https://ibb.co/WtLMvCH is an altered image. See how it is mirrored horizontally?
I wish they could use the Official Figure as 2M and 1. The 1 was tribute to the one died in protest of the bill [0]. R.I.P And I don't think the photos aren't what 2M people in the City really looks like. Here are few better ones. And thank you everyone who supported us, even if you are not in HK, it is still much appreciated. [0] https://time.com/5607742/hong-kong-protester-dies-anti-extra... [1] https://ibb.co/WtLM…
Thank you. This is my new wallpaper now.
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> This is a small world, whether we like it or not, and letting authoritarian stuff like this extradition treaty to a dictatorship slide A while ago a plane arrived in Fiji half-filled with Chinese police officers. They arrested 77 supposedly Chinese nationals, put them on the plane, and took them back to China. This was all extra-judicial. None of the 77 were arrested, charged, or convicted by the Fijian justice sys…
As a Chinese I think the Chinese police officers are doing a great job.
Some notes * French yellow vests are ignored week after week. This is all over the place. * HK already has extradiction with the USA. * USA debacle demanding a journalist extradition to prosecute. * Protesters posters are in english. * Mainstream narrative, small HK will be successful independent. UK brexit will be terrible because it will be a insignificant country.
France has a democratic system, Hong Kong has no democratic way to get rid of Lam. USA has due process, the right to council and many other fundamental human rights. Most of the posters are in Chinese. Brexit will be worse for the UK economically, leaving China would be good for HK democratically. And, also, the UK has an enshrined right to leave thanks to article 50, HK does not have that right at all.
USA is the country with more incarcerated people globally and per capita. (possibly unfairly?)
The posters are possibly most in Chinese. Maybe it was the selection from western sources. Although there is a very big amount in English.