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Absolutely not true. I control purchasing for my company, and have caused to be purchased a bunch of Lenovo's. No more, though.
I will continue to order as many Lenovo machines as I need. It is more important to me that the vendor serves my needs than what HN thinks about them. I'm not buying something crappy for my purposes because HN is mad.
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This is a strange comment. Most people I see on HN like Lenovo because of the quality of their machines. Where I can see a purchasing manager or head of IT against them at the moment is because they surreptitiously installed software which caused a security risk. If you're fine with your company's data possibly being compromised in the future then continue your ordering from Lenovo. I will still buy from them because…
What makes it a strange comment? Aren't the two of you saying the same thing?
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>If you've been sued once for something, you cannot be sued again (and again, and again) Double jeopardy doesn't prevent someone from opting out of a class action lawsuit and suing separately. >hot coffee lawsuit The hot coffee case wasn't a class action lawsuit.
Also the hot coffee lawsuit wasn't as stupid as people make out. The McDonald's coffee really was hot and gave Stella Liebeck some nasty burns.
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But corporations are individuals! Could two wrongs make a right?
So put the corporation in jail; take its personal items and lock them away, don't allow any outside communications except through visits, no access to bank accounts, etc. On a more serious note, what happens to the author[ing company] of the software used to inject ads? http://www.komodia.com/about
Think this insane? Look up in rem jurisdiction. You'll see cool lawsuits such as "UNITED STATES V. $50,000 IN CASH". I'd consider that precedent.
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What makes it a strange comment? Aren't the two of you saying the same thing?
Not really. The 'just because HN is mad' makes it sound like all the people here are boycotting Lenovo for irrational reasons. I don't think HN is 'mad' at the company, they just have some legitimate concerns.
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What would the criminal charges be? The best outline for a prosecution I've seen goes something like "CFAA, mumble mumble, spying is bad." What specific law was broken? Lay out the case. For bonus points, pretend you're the defense attorney, and then outline the defense's case.
> What would the criminal charges be? Not a lawyer but quoting from the document. COMPLAINT FOR: 1) VIOLATION OF COMPUTER FRAUD AND ABUSE ACT (18 U.S.C. § 1030, et seq.); 2) VIOLATION OF FEDERAL WIRETAP ACT (18 U.S.C. § 2510, et seq.); 3) VIOLATION OF THE STORED COMMUNICATIONS ACT (18 U.S.C. § 2701, et seq.); 4) VIOLATION OF CALIFORNIA INVASION OF PRIVACY ACT, PENAL CODE §§ 631, 637.2; 5) VIOLATION OF CALIFORNIA BUS.…
2) VIOLATION OF FEDERAL WIRETAP ACT (18 U.S.C. § 2510, et seq.);
3) VIOLATION OF THE STORED COMMUNICATIONS ACT (18 U.S.C. § 2701, et seq.);
However, there is a happy ending to this story. I went through my credit card company to get a refund, and it was taken care of no problem. The CC company was incredibly responsive and shocked about SuperFish.
I'm quite pleased, as SuperFish aside, this is the worst computer I've ever owned (Y50 UHD.)
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I don't buy Apple computers but isn't that a main selling point with osx?
Depends on whether you consider iTunes crapware :-)
iTunes on OS X runs better than any other music apps (that are not command line music clients like ncmpcpp) I've used, and I've used a lot. On OS X, I can't see why people would call it bloatware/crapware.
I purchased a Lenovo laptop in December, and it was one of the ones with SuperFish. They refused to give me a refund, because it was outside of their 30 day refund policy. It would be impossible to get a refund for SuperFish because the info came out in February and they were only infecting systems between September and December. However, there is a happy ending to this story. I went through my credit card company to…