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Re: Firefox 29

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Post by [deleted] »

DSMan195276 wrote: post #189
shmerl wrote: post #152

About Australis: Good: * Menu bar is hidden by default on Linux and can be opened with Alt (that didn't work before). Bad: * Menu ("Firefox") button is still not movable for no obvious reason. * Reload/Stop button is now forced to be in the URL bar (before users had a choice where to place it). That's pretty annoying, it's very uncomfortable when Back/Forward and Reload buttons are so far apart. * Bookmarks button is…

I felt the same. I recommend you grab Classic Theme Restorer. I'm not sure how to modify the URL bar (Which is the issue with the bookmarks and reload button), but the add-on will allow you to move the menu and adjust other various settings.

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Re: Firefox 29

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Post by brianstorms »

I've always had a bookmarks bar of single and double letters, like R for Reddit, Y for YCombinator, F for Facebook, $ for stocks, etc. Now with FF29 I have these blasted file folder icons next to each of my little codes, cluttering up the whole bookmarks bar.

I can't find any way of getting rid of the file folders -- not even thru Customize. Anyone found a way?

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by nailer »

simlevesque wrote: post #165
nailer wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Separate address and search bars is old-fashioned. As a user, I don't want to have to make this distinction, and it's hard to imagine most users-on-street wouldn't find this confusing > Use the customizer. Most users-on-street don't want to customise either. Edit: The moderation on this is baffling. Does anyone genuinely believe users want to customise to achieve reasonable defaults? HN should ban new users from m…

I want my bars separated for safety reasons

I definitely understand this.

I'm just responding to a comment saying 'customise it'. if the simplicity argument is true, then 'customise it' is not an appropriate suggestion.

The simplicity argument, of course, could not be true, since simplicity may threaten safety in this particular implementation.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by mccr8 »

mohamedattahri wrote: post #130
dilap wrote: post #63

I love Firefox -- for what it's done, what it represents, and what it helps guard against. I have fond memories of those early versions of Firefox (nee Firebird) that busted open the IE monopoly, and where hands-down the best browser going at the time. But it's never felt very good on the Mac to me, and it still doesn't. Here's a few early thoughts on this release, from the perspective of a happy Safari user, w/ a pr…

The main problem for me is how memory-hungry this browser is. How can a single tab opened on HN use 500MB?

The memory numbers reported on OSX by the system are a little weird, and include shared libraries in some kind of odd way. If you want to see the breakdown of how much memory the browser is actually using, go to about:memory and click on "Measure". You can mouse over the various categories to get a description.

Either that or you have an addon installed that is using a huge amount of memory.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by abus »

gulbrandr wrote: post #175
lucb1e wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think any page can do that. Probably something built into the browser specifically for this page, identified by the domain or something.

It seems so: http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/app/pr...

Strangely if you erase or change the value of that preference, it still runs. Does that mean it's checking something else?

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by CompuHacker »

Where the hell is my forward button? Why does browser.tabs.onTop not mean anything anymore? Where's my refresh button? On the... right side, inside the Awesome Bar? Why isn't a separate button? Why can't I put the Home button back beside the Back button? Why is the back button permanently part of the Awesome Bar? Why does the Awesome Bar change shape and size to allow the forward button to exist? Why isn't the forward button an element that I can move around like the refresh button? Why can't I move the Awesome Bar at all? What happened to the Status Bar? Why can't I replace the Status Bar with the Bookmarks Bar at the bottom of the screen? Why is the Start Button now permanently overlapping with anything displayed in the browser? Why can't I move the Menu Button? Why is your Menu Button right where Google Chrome's menus are by default? Also, when you remove the Title Bar, I can't grab the window because I keep my bookmarks as icons without titles on the Menu Bar.

Why are you messing with everything, Mozilla? Why are you breaking the UI metaphor? With the tabs on the top, all the elements under it are made to appear a part of that tab. There's no reason that I can see for the tabs to be on top. It doesn't look pretty, it takes extra pixels to render the smooth curve where the tab meets the next bar. Even if I'm insane and it's the same width, it still looks awful.

I've got five HD screens, and everyone is taking the tablet friendly, ergonomic approach. I want consistency. Please stop breaking everything. You're the last good browser, Firefox. Don't ruin it.

Please bring back: tabs on bottom, the permanent forward button, the refresh button, the bottom bar anchor, and the separate back button.

http://i.imgur.com/cFMoZ5b.png

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by shmerl »

DSMan195276 wrote: post #189
shmerl wrote: post #152

About Australis: Good: * Menu bar is hidden by default on Linux and can be opened with Alt (that didn't work before). Bad: * Menu ("Firefox") button is still not movable for no obvious reason. * Reload/Stop button is now forced to be in the URL bar (before users had a choice where to place it). That's pretty annoying, it's very uncomfortable when Back/Forward and Reload buttons are so far apart. * Bookmarks button is…

I felt the same. I recommend you grab Classic Theme Restorer. I'm not sure how to modify the URL bar (Which is the issue with the bookmarks and reload button), but the add-on will allow you to move the menu and adjust other various settings.

Thanks, that's much better. Now I just need to figure out how to reduce space between toolbar buttons (it's way too wide). Startup time with this add-on is pretty long though.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by abus »

alxgbsn wrote: post #194
INTPenis wrote: post #37

Am I the only one who's not comfortable with the fact that the "whatsnew"[1] page can activate my browsers menu with Javascript? [1] https://www.mozilla.org/sv-SE/firefox/29.0/whatsnew/?oldvers...

I'm a web developer on mozilla.org, so can provide some information here. The "mozUITour" API is specific to Firefox 29, and can only be used on mozilla.org, which is a white-listed domain that is hard-coded into the browser. The API is also pretty basic, in that it can highlight a limited number of target icons, and open a limited choice of menu's. The purpose of the API is strictly for on-boarding flows, such as th…

It can spy on what you type in the address bar... Hilarious when the new header is "Committed to your privacy".

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by simonster »

NathanKP wrote: post #185
simonster wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a reason for the taller top chrome: it makes the window easier to drag around. Compared with Chrome, there is a larger window drag area above the inactive tabs (but not the active tab). I think this is a pretty neat design.

On the contrary, Firefox actually has less drag space: http://i.imgur.com/atYV8Xo.png If you count it by pixel there is 10px of window drag space above the tabs in Firefox, but 11px of window drag space in Chrome. So technically Firefox would be harder to drag around. The thing that is bigger in Firefox is the fat tabs, and all the extra space above and below the address bar, which seems to be there solely for the pu…

You are looking at the drag space above the active tab. Only the inactive tabs get expanded drag space. You can see this by putting the mouse pointer above an inactive tab and slowly moving it down. The inactive tab doesn't highlight until you are 3 px(?) within the borders of the tab, and until that point, dragging will drag the window. It's not huge, but having that larger drag target does make the window easier to drag. The tab height difference is also only 3 px, so given that Firefox gives 1 px less above the active tab, it's 1 px "wasted" vertical space for a design that looks much more visually appealing IMO.
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