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Re: Firefox 29

#91

Post by nailer »

danford wrote: post #80
dilap wrote: post #63

I love Firefox -- for what it's done, what it represents, and what it helps guard against. I have fond memories of those early versions of Firefox (nee Firebird) that busted open the IE monopoly, and where hands-down the best browser going at the time. But it's never felt very good on the Mac to me, and it still doesn't. Here's a few early thoughts on this release, from the perspective of a happy Safari user, w/ a pr…

>Separate address and search bars is old-fashioned. As a user, I don't want to have to make this distinction, and it's hard to imagine most users-on-street wouldn't find this confusing Use the customizer. People complain when they change and complain when they don't > The address bar is square edged while the search bar is round edged, which is displeasingly visually. (I realize this is because there's a convention o…

>> Separate address and search bars is old-fashioned. As a user, I don't want to have to make this distinction, and it's hard to imagine most users-on-street wouldn't find this confusing

> Use the customizer.

Most users-on-street don't want to customise either.

Edit: The moderation on this is baffling. Does anyone genuinely believe users want to customise to achieve reasonable defaults?

HN should ban new users from moderating for a year.

Re: Firefox 29

#92

Post by danford »

pjmlp wrote: post #62
sawrubh wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any particular feature you would like, that is missing?

- The whole resources view - JavaScript profiling (heap, cpu, events) - DOM events monitoring and breakpoints. - JavaScript code completion

> - The whole resources view

I'm not sure what the exact criticism is here.

> - JavaScript profiling (heap, cpu, events)

is this what you mean?

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Profiler

> - DOM events monitoring and breakpoints.

You can do this now (at least in nightly)

> - JavaScript code completion

Works in the JS console.

Re: Firefox 29

#93

Post by wlesieutre »

dilap wrote: post #63

I love Firefox -- for what it's done, what it represents, and what it helps guard against. I have fond memories of those early versions of Firefox (nee Firebird) that busted open the IE monopoly, and where hands-down the best browser going at the time. But it's never felt very good on the Mac to me, and it still doesn't. Here's a few early thoughts on this release, from the perspective of a happy Safari user, w/ a pr…

> Separate address and search bars is old-fashioned. As a user, I don't want to have to make this distinction, and it's hard to imagine most users-on-street wouldn't find this confusing

Given the new gTLDs, I'm thankful that Firefox still has a separate search box. Say I'm want to know about the "asdfg.cat" file that showed up on my system. If I put that into the URL bar and hit enter, it's going to say "Oh, I know what .cat is, it's the TLD for Catalan related websites. Let's go to asdfg.cat!"

Same goes for things like "mail.app", which had conventionally referred to Apple's mail client on OS X. I have no idea if they'll end up owning that domain or if someone else will. And either way, I didn't want to end up on the web site if I was trying to search for it.

Re: Firefox 29

#94

Post by BrownBuffalo »

Just a question, but why is the interation cycle so extreme with Mozilla? Version 29? What is so different from version 3.x.x ... where we had normal interations I could wrap my head around. The whole number upgrades are insane. I know its such a simple thing, but trying to relate with software interation steps on such a fast moving number, just is mind boggling.

Re: Firefox 29

#95

Post by Svip »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #79
dilap wrote: post #63

I love Firefox -- for what it's done, what it represents, and what it helps guard against. I have fond memories of those early versions of Firefox (nee Firebird) that busted open the IE monopoly, and where hands-down the best browser going at the time. But it's never felt very good on the Mac to me, and it still doesn't. Here's a few early thoughts on this release, from the perspective of a happy Safari user, w/ a pr…

Separate address and search bars is old-fashioned. Exactly how I like it, I HATE getting search results when I make a type-o, or try to go to an internal site and forget to specify http://

Indeed. I love seeing Mozilla true to their mission. By separating them, the user knows where their input is going at all times. Only Firefox gets to see what you are typing in your address bar. Moreover, I love you can click ctrl+k in a tab, then type something you are reading on that page and then hit alt+enter to open your search result in a new tab.

Re: Firefox 29

#97

Post by 3rd3 »

BrownBuffalo wrote: post #94

Just a question, but why is the interation cycle so extreme with Mozilla? Version 29? What is so different from version 3.x.x ... where we had normal interations I could wrap my head around. The whole number upgrades are insane. I know its such a simple thing, but trying to relate with software interation steps on such a fast moving number, just is mind boggling.

Because of Chrome: http://krzysiu.net/misc/history_version_numbers_internet_bro...

I think it's a marketing strategy to convey active development.

Re: Firefox 29

#98

Post by jdc0589 »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #79
dilap wrote: post #63

I love Firefox -- for what it's done, what it represents, and what it helps guard against. I have fond memories of those early versions of Firefox (nee Firebird) that busted open the IE monopoly, and where hands-down the best browser going at the time. But it's never felt very good on the Mac to me, and it still doesn't. Here's a few early thoughts on this release, from the perspective of a happy Safari user, w/ a pr…

Separate address and search bars is old-fashioned. Exactly how I like it, I HATE getting search results when I make a type-o, or try to go to an internal site and forget to specify http://

Not sure about firefox, but in chrome you can get around it by appending a trailing / to things

Re: Firefox 29

#99

Post by mindphaze »

icebraining wrote: post #40
INTPenis wrote: post #37

Am I the only one who's not comfortable with the fact that the "whatsnew"[1] page can activate my browsers menu with Javascript? [1] https://www.mozilla.org/sv-SE/firefox/29.0/whatsnew/?oldvers...

What menu? I don't see any of that.

You need to be using version 29 when you click that link to see a tutorial that accesses the menu.

Re: Firefox 29

#100

Post by 6cxs2hd6 »

potch wrote: post #28
Narretz wrote: post #6

the only question: will tree style tabs work as before?

Yes, we made extra sure this add-on got updated. Lots of TST users at Mozilla :)

FWIW using the Add-Ons tab's search for "tree style tabs" gives 9 results, none of which include this add-on.

But when I click "269 more results", then Tree Style Tab is the first result on that addons.mozilla.org page.

(This isn't the first time I've found add-on search to be a bit wonky. Maybe "everyone" knows to ignore the first results (?), but I don't search for and install add-ons frequently enough to have learned that, quite yet.)

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