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Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by MereInterest »

nly wrote: post #33
shevy-java wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It honestly is very good, I'd put it up there with Linux Min I am not necessarily a Microsoft hater per se, but to insinuate that Linux is on the same level as the Microsoft operating system is really strange to me. Whenever I, for instance, have to copy files to windows, I am getting annoyed at how slow it is compared to Linux. And that's just one issue I have. Another one is how slow e. g. ruby is on windows, com…

And good god...windows 11 updates still take fucking hours and still require multiple reboots. How this is still so painful after 2 decades is beyond me

And even worse when the full-disk encryption requires you to unlock the computer after every reboot. It's just enough that the entire installation needs to be attended, and prevents you from doing anything else in the meantime.

Meanwhile, on Linux, my emacs session has a longer uptime than Windows.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by lazide »

Grombobulous wrote: post #174
Terr_ wrote: post #157

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> The printer thing seems pretty unrelated It's a simple example of how the arcane telemetry they demand is actually far more dangerous to you than it first appears. This is incredibly common when it comes to security and privacy issues, where it's not immediately obvious how things can be abused. (The truly obvious things tend to get fixed, after all.) > I don’t think [...] your Microsoft account has anything to do…

I appreciate the fact that you sent over a very good paper. After reading it, I am still not sure I see how this is particularly alarming information. I can see how it would help a forensic investigator who has physical access to the device. The most personal aspect seems to be the list of installed and removed programs, which I would agree is stepping across boundaries of privacy. The paper notes that this whole stu…

The typical response if someone comes knocking is ‘I don’t know what you’re talking about’. And really, how would they prove it unless you left a stack of printouts next to the door?

Now they could prove it was your printer (and that has happened multiple times in prosecutions!), even if you printed it years ago.

You don’t see how that is a problem?

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by cagey »

nitrat3 wrote: post #136

Does windows have any other lockin then one click .exe running? Is there any other reason people choose to use it over linux? Stability is basically same too..

As an example: Claude Desktop (containing Claude CoWork) is not officially available on Linux, only Windows and macOS.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by throwawaytea »

Grombobulous wrote: post #172
throwawaytea wrote: post #159

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Half the world's population is easily too young or too old or too poor or too rich to be gamers. So that 3 billion stat alone shows me people love just counting any moments spent in a video game at all for who knows what reason on any super bad quality 'game' as gamers.

Anyone with a smartphone can be a gamer. I think my mom playing Wordle on her smartphone does indeed make her a gamer.

Yes and the world has 6 billion researchers too because we Google things.

It's a lot more useful though when words have meaning and we take them seriously, otherwise nothing really makes sense.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by jogu »

kasabali wrote: post #196
Grombobulous wrote: post #129

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There are over 900 million PC gamers in the world. PCs have 43% marketshare in the total game console market. Yes, that includes marketshare against the Nintendo Switch. There’s a bit of a bubble of non-gaming in this forum, but gaming is definitely a top use case for PCs. Just walk into your local Best Buy in the laptop section and count up how many of the laptops are marketed as gaming systems. That should give you…

What is this 7-paragraph OLED talk about? I can plug an OLED display to a fricking Windows XP system with a Maxwell GPU and it'll work perfectly fine as long as it has a goddamn HDMI port. Has nothing to do with OS support.

I guess you missed the part where they’re talking about HDR?

Yes, the monitor will work but if you want to take full advantage of the panels you enable HDR.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by h4kunamata »

I cannot see a single reason why Windows still being used within business:

1. Endless security issues

2. Companies have to spend millions of dollars to make it secure, and fail

3. Everything is SaaS nowadays, you just need a browser and fast internet

4. Linux distros can easily replace Windows, no licensing, no dramas, no subscriptions

My guesses is that companies still have Windows because of the support, they can burn money monthly for some other company to provide support when things go bad.

You do not need that for Linux distros, it just works, faster, no matter the hardware age, it just works.

If you are end user, you have even less excuses to use Windows period. Everything from gaming to banking, from coding to 3D editing, work just fine on Linux.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by Austizzle »

h4kunamata wrote: post #206

I cannot see a single reason why Windows still being used within business: 1. Endless security issues 2. Companies have to spend millions of dollars to make it secure, and fail 3. Everything is SaaS nowadays, you just need a browser and fast internet 4. Linux distros can easily replace Windows, no licensing, no dramas, no subscriptions My guesses is that companies still have Windows because of the support, they can b…

There are plenty of popular games that don't work on Linux, a notable example being Fortnite. One of the most popular games of all time.

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by LtWorf »

hypfer wrote: post #169
LtWorf wrote: post #163

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Reverse engineer a binary proprietary database format? I have some doubts.

Why? Certainly not unattended, but no AI should ever be unattended. But if you closely guide it, support it with tools like Ghidra and force force force force force a process with many sanity checks and quintuple-checks, it's possible. What previously needed a whole team and months might be one guy, a lot of tokens and 1-3 weeks. Doable, fun, and interesting. __ Judging by the downvotes, I guess people mistook the in…

How do you guide it when you have no idea yourself? You mean you must first reverse engineer it manually and then hint it to the solution? Why would you do that at that point?

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by hulitu »

noxer wrote: post #94
vunderba wrote: post #3

Anyone who still needs to run Windows 10 for whatever reason should switch over to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (version 21H2) which will continue to receive security updates up through 2032. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/rel...

This is bad advice that is being repeated over and over by the so called tech influencers. You go to an older version that only got security updates so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10. And for the foreseeable future you gain nothing at all. If one day the normal version acctually stops reviving security updates, it almost certainly will be possible to switch the updat…

> you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10

Like improved animations, more wasted space and rounded windows corners ?

Re: Windows 10 quietly gets one more year of support and updates

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Post by oreally »

noxer wrote: post #94
vunderba wrote: post #3

Anyone who still needs to run Windows 10 for whatever reason should switch over to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (version 21H2) which will continue to receive security updates up through 2032. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/rel...

This is bad advice that is being repeated over and over by the so called tech influencers. You go to an older version that only got security updates so you will lack optimizations and features already in the current stable windows 10. And for the foreseeable future you gain nothing at all. If one day the normal version acctually stops reviving security updates, it almost certainly will be possible to switch the updat…

> which for most people likely wasting sever hours

Yea I don't think you understand who uses windows and for what..

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