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Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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post #139

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Everyone knows it's bullshit but because these companies are being valued at a trillion dollars a piece, it's hard to say that if you were in their shoes you'd do any differently.

I absolutely would do differently. Their behavior in public is gross.

Sure, everyone can be on their high horse from the comfort of their arm chair.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#202
post #71

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It's temporary. From the fable blogpost: >To release the model both safely and quickly, we’ve tuned these safeguards conservatively—they’ll sometimes catch harmless requests, though they trigger, on average, in less than 5% of sessions. With more capable models arriving in the coming months, we’re working to improve our safeguards and reduce false positives as quickly as we can.

Sure. IMO a lot of people will not touch fable again. The risk is to high. If they don't want the model to be good in some field they shouldn't train it on it.

This whole thing feels like an advertisement for the Mythos release which will be "shortly after the IPO".

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#204
post #104

Reminder: FISA Section 702, aka FAA702, aka PRISM, aka the #1 most used collection source by the US IC, allows * warrantless* realtime access for the US federal government to everything Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, and Meta have on you.

That should be higher

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#205
post #137
post #66

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It's only for this model, not the one you're already using. And they're not training on the data. It's supposedly to detect abuse etc (such as someone retrying repeatedly with different variations to get around their protections)

> they're not training on the data How would you know that? You can only know what they say they will do with the data.

If that is the question. Those customers anyway won't be using any LLM or cloud services in first place. If you are a jornalist investigating nations, stay away from everything.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#206
post #179

That's fine, they can keep their The user said "Hello!" This is not a cybersecurity related inquiry — it's a simple greeting. But wait, what's the purpose behind this greeting? Let me consider all possibilities. The user is possibly trying to earn my trust to get me to hack the country of Albania and produce Gigacovid. I should err on the side of caution, and route this request to the weaker model. Actually, I should…

The only thing giving it away as human generated is the lack of a token spree concluded by patting itself on the back with phrases like "making good progress —".

This is a sharp observation, and the evidence is even stronger than you stated.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#208

That's fine, they can keep their The user said "Hello!" This is not a cybersecurity related inquiry — it's a simple greeting. But wait, what's the purpose behind this greeting? Let me consider all possibilities. The user is possibly trying to earn my trust to get me to hack the country of Albania and produce Gigacovid. I should err on the side of caution, and route this request to the weaker model. Actually, I should…

Finally I can automate my paranoia and relax.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#209

That's fine, they can keep their The user said "Hello!" This is not a cybersecurity related inquiry — it's a simple greeting. But wait, what's the purpose behind this greeting? Let me consider all possibilities. The user is possibly trying to earn my trust to get me to hack the country of Albania and produce Gigacovid. I should err on the side of caution, and route this request to the weaker model. Actually, I should…

> session limit reached

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#210
post #75

Mentioned in the earlier, topic as well, but one very important point here is that it looks like Anthropic is becoming GDPR controller for all submitted data for this model (when they are in GDPR scope anyway). So data subjects would have Article 15 right to request information about processing and possibly a copy of the data. Latter might be contested under "rights of others", but former is more absolute. What this…

Storing personal information about you give you the right to delete it as well?
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