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Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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Fortunately I can't use Fable anyway, since their hyperactive content flaggers do not let you work on anything remotely biological or medical related (i.e. parse a CSV with some medical content, nope, you're probably a bioterrorist) and you get downgraded to Opus immediately.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#22

A startup that uses agentic coding tools such as Claude Code or Codex is packaging up their entire codebase and sending it directly to their LM provider. Depending on their product, they might be sending it directly to a potential competitor. Odd times we are living in!

Not just “a startup”! Also, famously, Meta, with their famous AI usage dashboards

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#23

It is actually worse than that. It is at least 30 days. There is an "almost" that is doing a ton of heavy lifting here "deletion after 30 days in almost all cases". My read of that is they can hang onto data for as long as they want, even if they usually won't. And "all traffic" with an agentic harness is basically your entire codebase you work on. > We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class mo…

Even worse when you git push something Microsoft gets all your code!

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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post #16
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s exactly what my employer had communicated. It will not be allowed.

Step 1: Find all companies which refuses/bans to use SOTA models from irrational fear. Step 2: Use SOTA models to copy them and crush them Step 3: Profit. (Yes, not every business is easily replicable, but you sure can find some)

Can you name a single example of a business that has been replaced by another business leveraging LLMs to copy and "crush" their software?

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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post #16
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s exactly what my employer had communicated. It will not be allowed.

Step 1: Find all companies which refuses/bans to use SOTA models from irrational fear. Step 2: Use SOTA models to copy them and crush them Step 3: Profit. (Yes, not every business is easily replicable, but you sure can find some)

Step 4, get sued because you violated an NDA or other regulation?

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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So if you are under an NDA, does this violate it? I guess the better question would be if you are under and NDA and using an online model, are you already violating it but does this violate it further?

In the same way that using Gmail and Dropbox and iCloud and Notion violates it. (Which IANAL but for most NDAs would be not at all.)

I never had an NDA permit such usage.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#28
All I can say to my team (and my clients): "f...k Anthropic". They've just put both Bedrock and Vertex on slippery slope of "we don't collect your prompts. period. ... comma ... except ..."

Right now we have changed the code of all our agents to data retention mode 'none' (Note: not "default" or "inherited", this is not enough now!) and we are fighting with GCP doco to set similar things for Vertex.

This is just terrible.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#29

It is actually worse than that. It is at least 30 days. There is an "almost" that is doing a ton of heavy lifting here "deletion after 30 days in almost all cases". My read of that is they can hang onto data for as long as they want, even if they usually won't. And "all traffic" with an agentic harness is basically your entire codebase you work on. > We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class mo…

Even worse when you git push something Microsoft gets all your code!

Only if you push it to GitHub.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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Fortunately I can't use Fable anyway, since their hyperactive content flaggers do not let you work on anything remotely biological or medical related (i.e. parse a CSV with some medical content, nope, you're probably a bioterrorist) and you get downgraded to Opus immediately.

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