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Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by jimkleiber »

_flux wrote: post #98
jimkleiber wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just want a little predictable insight into how much I get. For example, at a buffet, I know I can only eat so much food and can plan around it. This is like going to a buffet and not knowing how many plates I can take or how big the plates are, and it changes each week, and yet I have to keep paying the same price. Except it's not about eating, it's about my work and deadlines and promises and all that.

That's what these providers want as well, but from the other side. They want to know that a customer won't be able to eat more than certain number of servings, as they need to pay for each of those servings. It works out even if some customers are able to eat a lot, because people on average have a certain limit. The limits of computers are much higher.

Fair, and I think openclaw and all the orchestrators are having agents maxing out the plans. So maybe they figure out a new tier that is agent-run vs human-run. Agents are much more insatiable, whereas humans have a limit. Not sure if it'd be possible to split between those two different modes, but I think that might address the appetite issue better.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by bachmeier »

ivanjermakov wrote: post #106

Wonder what the next AI winter trigger would be. Coding agent client collapsing under its own tech debt?

I think it's been clear from the beginning that the per-token price of usage was far below what it will be when firms have implemented their profit-maximizing price plans. "AI winter" will happen when these firms start maximizing profit. At that point it'll be too expensive for all but certain use cases to use the best technology for work.

We'll see AI chat replace Google, we'll see companies adopting AI in high-value areas, and we'll see local models like Gemma 4 get used heavily.

AI winter will see a disappearance of the clickbait headlines about everyone losing their jobs. Literally nobody is making those statements taking into account that pricing to this point is way less than the profit maximizing level.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by nickthegreek »

embedding-shape wrote: post #163
Someone1234 wrote: post #134

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Codex just changed the way they calculate usage with a massive negative impact. Before a Subscription was the cheapest way to gain Codex usage, but now they've essentially having API and Subscription pricing match (e.g. $200 sub = $200 in API Codex usage). The only value of a subscription now is that you get the web version of ChatGPT "free." In terms of raw Codex usage, you could just as easily buy API usage. edit:…

> e.g. $200 sub = $200 in API Codex usage [...] In terms of raw Codex usage, you could just as easily buy API usage. I don't think it's made out like that, I'm on the ChatGPT Pro plan for personal usage, and for a client I'm using the OpenAI API, both almost only using GPT 5.4 xhigh, done pretty much 50/50 work on client/personal projects, and clients API usage is up to 400 USD right now after a week of work, and Cha…

ChatGPT Personal Pro plan hasnt had the change yet. It is rolling out to Enterprise users first.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by dpark »

RC_ITR wrote: post #123
dpark wrote: post #70

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Since apparently LLMs have also conquered physics, “Claude, transmute this lead to gold for me.”

Yeah, it's almost like the point I was making is that everyone is overselling AI agents' capabilities.

I’m sure someone is out there claiming that AI is going to solve all your business’s problems no matter what they are. Remotely sane people are saying it will solve (or drastically improve) certain classes of problems. 3x code? Sure. 3x the physical hardware in a data center? Surely not.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by dandellion »

rattlesnakedave wrote: post #184
ericmcer wrote: post #165

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I mean at this point can we just conclude that there are a group of engineers who claim to have incredible success with it and a group that claim it is unreliable and cannot be trusted to do complex tasks. I struggle to believe that a ton of seemingly intelligent software engineers are too dumb to figure out how to use Claude code to get reliable results, it seems much more likely to me that it can do well at isolate…

“I struggle to believe that a ton of seemingly intelligent software engineers are too dumb to figure out how to use Claude code to get reliable results” Seemingly is doing the heavy lifting here. If you read enough comment threads on HN, it will become obvious why they aren’t getting results.

Here's my 100 file custom scaffolding AI prompt that I've been working on for the last four months, and can reliably one-shot most math olympic problems and even a rust to do list.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by darth_aardvark »

dandellion wrote: post #187
echelon wrote: post #132

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> I get it. LLMs are cool technology. I don't think many of you have legitimately tried Claude Code, or maybe you're holding it wrong. I'm getting 10x the work done. I'm operating at all layers of the stack with a speed and rapidity I've never had before. And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lot…

You must be using it wrong, because I'm getting 100x the work done and currently at 1.5 million MRR with this SAAS I vibe coded over the weekend. After I solved entrepreneurship I decided to retire and I now spend my days reading HN, posting on topics about AI.

You're still manually posting? All of my HN posting, trolling, shitposting and spamming is taken care of by a fleet of bots I vibecoded in the last 5 minutes.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by woctordho »

gruez wrote: post #175
woctordho wrote: post #156

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You don't even need to be a customer served by Anthropic or OpenAI so the Terms of Service are irrelevant. That's how I live in China and use almost free Claude and GPT which they don't sell here.

Wait, is this just something like openrouter, that routes your requests to different API providers, where you're paying per-token rates? Or is this taking advantage of fixed price plans, by offering an API interface for them, even though they're only supposed to be used with the official tools?

It's taking advantage of fixed price plans or even free plans.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by jimkleiber »

kristjansson wrote: post #86
jimkleiber wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just want a little predictable insight into how much I get. For example, at a buffet, I know I can only eat so much food and can plan around it. This is like going to a buffet and not knowing how many plates I can take or how big the plates are, and it changes each week, and yet I have to keep paying the same price. Except it's not about eating, it's about my work and deadlines and promises and all that.

If you need the tokens for real work, that’s what the API and the other providers like Bedrock are for. The subscription product is merely to whet your appetite.

Well then I would just not use their service. I used extra usage once and just for what I'd consider a low amount of tests and coding, racked up like $300 in an hour or more. For some, that's not a lot of money, for me, I'd just code it manually, especially without knowing almost any way to gauge how much I'll need and how fast it goes.

I'm not sure how businesses budget for llm APIs, as they seem wildly unpredictable to me and super expensive, but maybe I'm missing something about it.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by vidarh »

cbg0 wrote: post #188
throw4847285 wrote: post #143

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"Addicted" "Superpowers" "manifest with my mind" "it feels amazing" Why does it sound like you're on drugs? I know that sounds extremely rude, but I can't think of any other reasonable comparison for that language. It's hard to take these kinds of endorsements seriously when they're written so hyperbolically, in terms of the same cliches, and focused on entirely on how it makes you feel rather than what it does.

Reading a bunch of posts related to Claude Code and some folks voice genuine upset about rate limits and model intelligence while others seem very upset they can't get their fix because they've reached the five hours limits is genuinely concerning to how addictive LLMs can be for some folks.

It's reflecting the value we get from it, relative to the cost of continuing if we switch to the API pricing. It is genuinely upsetting to hit the limits when you face a substantial drop in productivity.

Imagine being an Uber driver and suddenly have to switch to a rickshaw for several hours.

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