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Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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98% uptime is not great. Our eng department is thinking about going half half with Codex but of course there’s a switching cost.

I'm VERY curious about your case. What kind of switching costs do you guys have? I'm working at a very young startup that is still not locked into either AI provider harnesses -- what causes switching costs, just the subscription leftovers or something else?

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

#142

No one is going to like this answer, but there’s a simple solution: pay for API tokens and adjust your use of CC so that the actions you have it take are worth the cost of the tokens. It’s great to buy dollars for a penny, but the guy selling em is going to want to charge a dollar eventually…

it's not a subsidy. It's predatory pricing and it should be illegal. I offer you a service at a loss to remove competition and then increase prices once you are stuck with it.

That's the VC playbook.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

#143

As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…

I really enjoy coding. I've build a number of projects, personal and professional, with Python, Rust, Java and even some Scala in the mix. However, I've been addicted to Claude Code recently, especially with the superpowers skill. It feels like I can manifest code with my mind. When developing with Claude, I am presented with design dilemmas, architectural alternatives, clarification questions, things that really mak…

"Addicted" "Superpowers" "manifest with my mind" "it feels amazing"

Why does it sound like you're on drugs? I know that sounds extremely rude, but I can't think of any other reasonable comparison for that language.

It's hard to take these kinds of endorsements seriously when they're written so hyperbolically, in terms of the same cliches, and focused on entirely on how it makes you feel rather than what it does.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

#144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was vacationing! What's up with OpenAI now? Asking with some morbid curiosity tbh.

As a person that hasn’t used Claude code before, I’ve been using OpenAI’s Codex and it is pretty amazing. I wonder how much more amazing Claude is.

Both are great, where they differ is: Claude Code has a better instinct than Codex. Meaning it will naturally produce things like you, the developer, would have.

Codex shines really well at what I call "hard problems." You set thinking high, and you just let it throw raw power at the problem. Whereas, Claude Code is better at your average day-to-day "write me code" tasks.

So the difference is kind of nuanced. You kind of need to use both a while to get a real sense of it.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

#145

As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…

I really enjoy coding. I've build a number of projects, personal and professional, with Python, Rust, Java and even some Scala in the mix. However, I've been addicted to Claude Code recently, especially with the superpowers skill. It feels like I can manifest code with my mind. When developing with Claude, I am presented with design dilemmas, architectural alternatives, clarification questions, things that really mak…

That’s like saying enjoying composing music, but not enjoying playing music. Or creating stories, but don’t like writing. Yes they’re different activities, but linked together. The former is creativity, the latter is a medium of transmission.

Code is notation, just like music sheets, or food recipes. If your interaction with anyone else is with the end result only (the software), the. The code does not matter. But for collaboration, it does. When it’s badly written, that just increase everyone burden.

It’s like forcing everyone to learn a symphony with the record instead of the sheets. And often a badly recorded version.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is a big community that has always had a mix of people who value newness as a feature vs those who prioritize simplicity and reliability. Unless you're recognizing the exact same names taking these contradictory opinions it's probably different groups of people for the most part. It seems like every LLM thread for the past couple years is full of posts saying that the latest hot AI tool/approach has made them unbe…

> I get it. LLMs are cool technology. I don't think many of you have legitimately tried Claude Code, or maybe you're holding it wrong. I'm getting 10x the work done. I'm operating at all layers of the stack with a speed and rapidity I've never had before. And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lot…

> and I have to consume it in the way that it's presented

I'm just curious, why do you "have to"? Don't get me wrong, I'm making the same choice myself too, realizing a bunch of global drawbacks because of my local/personal preference, but I won't claim I have to, it's a choice I'm making because I'm lazy.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

#147
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is a big community that has always had a mix of people who value newness as a feature vs those who prioritize simplicity and reliability. Unless you're recognizing the exact same names taking these contradictory opinions it's probably different groups of people for the most part. It seems like every LLM thread for the past couple years is full of posts saying that the latest hot AI tool/approach has made them unbe…

> I get it. LLMs are cool technology. I don't think many of you have legitimately tried Claude Code, or maybe you're holding it wrong. I'm getting 10x the work done. I'm operating at all layers of the stack with a speed and rapidity I've never had before. And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lot…

> fact I can't run Opus locally

Yet

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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post #87

Isn't it a little weird that we trust this app to help us build some of the most important parts of our business and the company that vends this app keep breaking it in unique ways. At my workplace we have been sticking with older versions, and now stick to the stable release channel.

I like dogfooding. You can use Azure if you want infra that is clearly not being used, tested, and pushed to the limits by its own creators.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

#149

As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…

Apart from local AI, a serious choice is aggregated API such as new-api [0]. An API provider aggregated thousands of accounts has much better stability than a single account. It's also cheaper than the official API because of how the subscription model works, see e.g. the analysis [1]. [0] https://github.com/QuantumNous/new-api [1] https://she-llac.com/claude-limits

>An API provider aggregated thousands of accounts has much better stability than a single account

Isn't this almost certainly against ToS, at least if you're using "plans" (as opposed to paying per-token)?

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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post #84
post #8

Mounting evidence that claude max users are put into one big compute fuel pool. Demand increased dramatically with OpenAI's DoD PR snafu (even though Anth was already working with the DoD? But I digress...). The pool hit a ceiling. Anth has no compute left to give. Hence people maxing out after 1 query. "Working on it" means finding a way to distill Claude Code that isn't enough of a quality degradation to be noticed…

Alternatively, the elephant in the room I'm surprised no one wants to talk about: the vibe coding is catching up with them.

I don't think anyone is talking about it because it's not a very productive conversation to have. I'm not particularly bullish on vibe coding either but if you could explain what exactly about vibe coding causes these specific issues then it could be more interesting to discuss.

But as it stands, the more likely reason is capacity crunch caused by a chips shortage and demand heavily outpacing supply. You vibe coding reason is based on as much vibes as their code probably is.

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