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Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #190

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> it would be a big a big boon for my career to work at Twitter.. And I'm not even sure it would be a big career boost to join twitter at this point. The way things are going there you'd probably be burned out pretty quickly which would mean a shortish tenure.

Just one brand name on your resume can entirely change the trajectory of your career compensation. I see so many people working as SWEs at these small businesses or even fortune 500 companies. Sure they make 6 figures usually but their compensation is not in the same stratosphere as even entry level big tech SWE since so much of big tech pay is in equity.

Yup, that's where i was thinking. My career is smaller startups and smaller businesses. I make enough, but a bigger name on my resume would help a lot. Especially since i'm not someone who enjoys or expects to do well in the classical interviews.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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80hr+ in-office work weeks with no equity and the threat of being instantly fired for appearing disloyal in Slack or correcting the CEO... sounds fun!

They don't have stock? Also maybe don't say your employer is a "petulant man child" in Slack or otherwise undermine them and you'll be fine. The idea that an employer should keep people that actively dislike like him or her is insane.

Parent is thinking about joining Twitter now because they've always wanted to work for Musk. They aren't getting equity.

Also don't factually and politely correct your CEO in a reply on Twitter when he lies.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #72

Wild prediction: Twitter will continue to work as it did even after that ~80% workforce haircut. Make of that what you will.

But the advertisers might leave.

If the audience is there, advertisers won't leave. Some of the ad pauses right now are mostly performative art. Every ad business is suffering right now with people cutting ad budgets, so pausing Twitter ads as a PR move was free advertising and also covered for the fact that advertisers needed to cut budgets anyhow.

People that claim "brand safety" honestly kind of make me laugh, look at all the World Cup sponsors...don't you think Qatar using slaves (some of which have died) to build the stadiums would be...not safe for your brand to associate with? I would, but they still are advertising, because the audience is massive. I think people dying from something you're helping to fund through advertising is probably worse to be associated with than a tweet saying "own the libs" is 3 pegs down from your ad. Call me crazy.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #72

Wild prediction: Twitter will continue to work as it did even after that ~80% workforce haircut. Make of that what you will.

Many tech companies are over-staffed: R+D pet projects, full time OSS devs, dev rel, etc. Some companies probably have staff who literally do one task like managing webpack config. I disagree with Musk about A LOT, but most companies have opportunities to trim fat before they even touch the core product.

This is the essence of vulture capital LBOs —- load the company with debt, fire everyone that doesn’t contribute directly to the bottom line, cut all perks, close many offices, and then float an IPO to cash out.

For all of the high-minded free speech town square rhetoric from his camp, this looks much more like the game plan from worst PE actors from the 1980s. I guess it’s good there isn’t a pension fund to raid?

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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I bet 20% of their workforce was support + inside sales reps for advertisers. I'd further guess that 10-20% of their workforce was staying on top of regulations. If twitter works, but does not comply with the FTC consent order and gets fined out of business, that is not a technical failure but still is failure. Large enterprises, especially those under consent orders, spend a TON of effort in compliance. Given that e…

When has the FTC ever levied a fine that put someone out of business for an internet privacy related consent decree? I don't think it's ever happened.

Twitter was fined $765 million in 2021. Not sure by what organization.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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This is what happens when you habitually work hundred plus hour weeks and perhaps get only five hours sleep a night. There's little to no method to his madness at this point.

Is he working though?? It seems to me that he just spends all day on twitter. Not all that different from myself actually, except no one is writing books and stories about me and my mythical 100 hour work weeks.

You're not the richest person alive with multiple 100B+ companies

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Interesting that none of these twitter articles are making it to the front page.

I'm not sure it is. Is anyone seeing any comments in these threads that they couldn't have predicted before clicking in?

It's mostly schadenfreude and naysaying. Which may even be justified, but it kinda makes for dull reading after a short while.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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What part would be changing the world? Seems like at the most hes going to eventually do a lap and twitter will end up where it started, just saddled with 900 million dollar a year debt fees. At worst just a place where saying the N word is more acceptable.

"What part would be changing the world?" - Break up the cartel that is mass media + tech giants + democrats - The control on the narrative determine what people think, how they votes, where the world goes. - Making this open and transparent will disrupt many entrenched interests. Huge potential

You think Twitter controls the narrative?

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #109

In my opinion Elon miscalculated the type of people at Twitter. These aren’t people like the ones in Tesla or SpaceX where there is some sort of idealization of Elon. The number of fan boys he has at Twitter must be super low. None of the Twitter employees signed up to work for him, it’s pretty obvious from the public tweets that most of the staff has posted that they don’t have much respect for him. On top of that,…

> The number of fan boys he has at Twitter must be super low.

I think this is largely why he fired everyone. He wants all his employees to be musk sycophants so he pushed everyone else out.

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