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Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Interesting that none of these twitter articles are making it to the front page.

Apparently Hacker news have some kind of anti-flamewar protection that automatically downwheighs threads with a lot of activity. I don't know how it works or if it's true, but I've seen high activity posts drop like a stone in their rating and quickly go from front page to several pages down.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

#92
post #54

> Twitter reportedly no longer has a communications department to relay information to the media. Doesn’t look good.

Why is that not good? Twitter can communicate to people directly without the media middleman.

The "media middlemen" still are writing their articles. With a working communications department, you get ahead info on articles (maybe not all details from the article, but a heads up) and a chance to incluence the articles by providing input to the author. Without a communication department article authors rely stronger on other sources.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

#93

Seeing Elon flail about so publicly like this is just hilarious to me. I feel like we're way off track right now from his original purpose of buying twitter (more free speech or something??? then it was bots then 8$ checkmarks and I can't even keep up anymore)

Me too and I feel quite vindicated as I have been saying it for a long time that Musk is an incompetent fraud with incredible amounts of luck. Edit: actually less vindicated but more happy that I don't have to hear from people how great Elon is any more.

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Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

#94
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

80hr+ in-office work weeks with no equity and the threat of being instantly fired for appearing disloyal in Slack or correcting the CEO... sounds fun!

If you want money, work life balance, comfortable pace it’s not the place. If you want to change the world, are ready to push yourself, work with the most dedicated people, it is. It’s a place for very few. I would really like to work in one of his company, but I don’t think I have the stamina for it.

What part would be changing the world? Seems like at the most hes going to eventually do a lap and twitter will end up where it started, just saddled with 900 million dollar a year debt fees. At worst just a place where saying the N word is more acceptable.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

#95
post #59

I've always wanted to work for Musk, but never felt like I was skilled enough to work on spaceships or cars... But Twitter? I am thinking about applying, so go ahead and quit.

Go for it. It's rare to see such a high alpha opportunity. It's like getting in an early stage startup but in this case they already have network effects.

I thought all employee equity was converted to cash grants.

Are they still giving equity in the chance that it goes public again someday?

Other than a good salary, where’s the financial upside?

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

#97
post #13

At this point, I'm kinda wondering if Musk's deal to finance the Twitter acquisition included some Brewster's Millions -style clause where he gets to keep the company and the $44B if the company goes bankrupt within 90 days.

For anyone not familiar, this movie is worth checking out: > Monty Brewster is a Minor League Baseball pitcher with the Hackensack Bulls. He and his best friend, Spike Nolan, the Bulls' catcher, are arrested after a post-game bar fight. A man offers to post their bail if they will come to New York City with him. At the Manhattan law office of Granville & Baxter, Brewster is told that his recently deceased great-uncle…

The man's living in New York City? Just buy a 2 bedroom apartment and call it a day.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

#98
post #72

Wild prediction: Twitter will continue to work as it did even after that ~80% workforce haircut. Make of that what you will.

That's the one thing I think Musk has been spot-on about: Twitter had far too many employees, many of them doing what amounts to nothing.

On the other hand, he hasn't stopped giving signals to his best talent that they're going to have a miserable time, and they should just quit. They would have a better time literally anywhere else.

Even if we agree that company is 80% bloated, you probably want the best 20% to stay.

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In referring to a bunch of employees laid off, he said "I would like to apologize for firing these geniuses. Their immense talent will no doubt be of great use elsewhere"[1]. About another specific employee he said "A tragic case of adult onset Tourette’s"[2].

Why would talent ever want to work for a CEO who will fire you on the spot for whatever reason, turn around and say this about them publicly (or privately!). If I was still working at twitter, this would make me quit.

[1]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592569305941807104

[2]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592582828499570688

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

#99
post #54

> Twitter reportedly no longer has a communications department to relay information to the media. Doesn’t look good.

Why is that not good? Twitter can communicate to people directly without the media middleman.

> Twitter can communicate to people directly

But they're not, which is why this information is being reported by the media. And the media has questions which Twitter hasn't addressed, and those questions are going unanswered because Twitter no longer employs the people that answer those questions.

Moreover, the "media middlemen" that you're describing are also looking at this from the perspective of the Twitter employees (and former employees). Do you really expect Twitter (the nebulous entity which communicates directly to people, as you imply) to reflect accurately on what their employees have to say? Of course not. If it was up to Twitter, none of this would be reported on and the public would be no wiser. These journalists are reporting information that wouldn't be reported otherwise; they _obviously_ add value beyond being middlemen, because there seems to be nobody to be a middleman _for_.

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