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Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Wild prediction: Twitter will continue to work as it did even after that ~80% workforce haircut. Make of that what you will.

Issue that I see that it might be that workforce losses are not uniform. But there might be a few critical teams entirely lost. And what ever they are doing might be mission critical.

Now chance of such teams having fully out is anyone's guess.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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He is ingeniously driving up engagement with Twitter by using Twitter itself. Many people want him to fail, expect him to fail, are willing him to fail. Past evidence of his failures had yet to be found.

I haven't seen any indicators of Twitter failing besides 2FA failures; but every time I read anything on HN, it is doomed to fail. I feel like some of the resentful people here will try to hack into Twitter possibly get caught and see jail time? May be they will do something bad because this kind kind of irrational hate for a billionaire is not normal. Hell, even Peter Thiel doesn't get this vitroil. It reminds me of…

> I haven't seen any indicators of Twitter failing besides 2FA failures;

If you ignore everything we are hearing about mass employee exodus and critical teams having no engineers left.

> Why do you guys hate Elon with your guts with such an intense passion?

To put it bluntly, because he is an asshole.

I honestly don’t know how anyone likes him after he called a cave diver who helped save a bunch of children a pedo just because he said that Musks proposed submarine rescue wouldn’t work.

His ego is immense and he lacks the emotional maturity to not lash out at people when he is wrong.

On top of all that he is a billionaire, which is an inherently immoral thing to be IMO.

A good person cannot amass that much wealth and not give away 99% of it to help people who need it.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Interesting that none of these twitter articles are making it to the front page.

I had the same thought, but as noahtallen pointed out there's been two on the front page in the last 24 hours, including one with over a thousand points.

I'd be interested to hear dang explain how the ranking mechanics are at work in these posts, but I hunch it may simply be because there's not actually much there to engage community interest for very long. The downspiral has been very rapid but it's essentially just been one headline after another. There's only so much speculation to be made about how and why this is happening and only so many jokes to crack about it. And if the discussions are mostly cruft I wouldn't be surprised if they're being downranked.

I look forward to seeing some in depth post-mortems and discussions about them here when the dust has settled, but for now it feels more like we're standing around a bonfire and nodding at one another.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #54

> Twitter reportedly no longer has a communications department to relay information to the media. Doesn’t look good.

Why is that not good? Twitter can communicate to people directly without the media middleman.

>Twitter can communicate to people directly

Who is Twitter?

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't have stock? Also maybe don't say your employer is a "petulant man child" in Slack or otherwise undermine them and you'll be fine. The idea that an employer should keep people that actively dislike like him or her is insane.

> They don't have stock? They're a private company now.

Doesn't mean there is no stock. The stock isn't publicly traded, which makes it harder to sell, but Twitter has a bunch of shareholders (Saudi Prince and Jack Dorsey are known ones) and could give out shares to employees.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #72

Wild prediction: Twitter will continue to work as it did even after that ~80% workforce haircut. Make of that what you will.

I very much doubt that. Twitter must have had some bloat, but there's no way that 80% of the workforce was bloat. I'd be extremely surprised if Twitter(as in, the website/app, not the registered legal entity) still exists and works by the end of this year.

I'd take that bet. 1BTC?

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

80hr+ in-office work weeks with no equity and the threat of being instantly fired for appearing disloyal in Slack or correcting the CEO... sounds fun!

They don't have stock? Also maybe don't say your employer is a "petulant man child" in Slack or otherwise undermine them and you'll be fine. The idea that an employer should keep people that actively dislike like him or her is insane.

> The idea that an employer should keep people that don't like him or her is insane.

It's not insane. Only keeping people that kiss your ass is how you get echo chambers and lose touch with reality.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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In my opinion Elon miscalculated the type of people at Twitter. These aren’t people like the ones in Tesla or SpaceX where there is some sort of idealization of Elon. The number of fan boys he has at Twitter must be super low. None of the Twitter employees signed up to work for him, it’s pretty obvious from the public tweets that most of the staff has posted that they don’t have much respect for him. On top of that, as others have mentioned, Twitter as a product doesn’t comprare to SpaceX and Tesla and just saying “we’re gonna build Twitter 2.0 the bestest thing ever!” Isn’t particularly motivating enough to give up your work-life balance. Elon came in to a place that already has a culture established… and the people that are there that know how much they’re worth don’t really feel the need to put up with his bullying “my way or the high way”. Props to the people at Twitter for sticking to their beliefs. I think Elon also miscalculated the importance of work from home. I assume a lot of the engineers have the “millennial” mentality of “I work not live, I don’t live to work”.

Re: Twitter in chaos as employees accept Musk’s invitation to quit their jobs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me too and I feel quite vindicated as I have been saying it for a long time that Musk is an incompetent fraud with incredible amounts of luck. Edit: actually less vindicated but more happy that I don't have to hear from people how great Elon is any more.

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