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Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Think they're referring to this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55236260

Intersting, thanks. Is this not just a coincidence of scheduling though? Or do courts normally schedule executions for presidential transition periods?

We normally don't execute anyone ever. People on the federal death row stay there for decades.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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I'm not entirely sure that it was possible to pardon Assange as he hasn't been convicted with anything yet? As in , I thought the extradition request was to be sent to USA for a trial.

You can pardon people before they're convicted of anything. Trump pardoned Steve Bannon for example and he has not yet been convicted (he has been charged). Assange has been charged with various things by the Feds, which is what Trump would pardon. The floated theory went that Trump could plausibly pardon himself as well, for any likely future charges.

It's questionable if you can pardon yourself or your coconspirators, and you specifically can't pardon yourself for things you were impeached for.

It's not questionable if you can pardon things that haven't been charged yet. You can. The pardon power is absolute, greater than laws that define specific crimes, and doesn't require accepting guilt or whatever.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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post #80

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The "ok" hand sign isn't a white power sign just because some people have decided it to be. It's meant ok since as long as anyone can remember. I'm not willing to accept I can't say okay now because some liberal thinkers have decided that that's now become racist. People need to lighten up a bit and not make everything an affront.

Or you can use context instead of absolute judgment. When done under water in a scuba suit, it probably means ok. When done when posing with Steve Bannon it probably means white power sign.

Yep. That picture is 100% not flashing the ok sign. It's just so clearly not.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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post #86

Seems the comments here are mostly negative — saying his pardon is an example of corruption and that he should be in jail. Personally, I think that the ability for gigantic corporations' ability to not only sue their former employees or influence justice to get them thrown in jail by the government is a much bigger problem. And generally I feel like prison sentences for white-collar and non-violent crime is in almost…

I’m not really interested in seeing Levandowski sent to jail either.

People like him are a menace to society and shouldn’t be allowed to operate companies or deploy capital.

Society blesses individuals with the privilege to form a company and in exchange those company officers are expected to make a net positive contribution to society. Jobs, investment, progress.

If you fail to do that — through stealing, fraud, corruption — the least you should expect is to never be allowed to run a company ever again.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Also in Trump's last hurrah is pardoning Kwame Kilpatrick. https://www.crimetownshow.com/ I have no idea how he fits in the profile of Trump's other pardons. Maybe just resonates with Trump as another shameless, corrupt politician.

It’s his way of getting back at Detroit/Michigan for not voting for him?

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

#206
post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think they're referring to this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55236260

Intersting, thanks. Is this not just a coincidence of scheduling though? Or do courts normally schedule executions for presidential transition periods?

I believe the US Government (as opposed to states) hadn't executed anyone for something like 12 years (covering 3 transition periods) and then in about 3 months, executed 13.

It's definitely not scheduling.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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post #93

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Or you can use context instead of absolute judgment. When done under water in a scuba suit, it probably means ok. When done when posing with Steve Bannon it probably means white power sign.

Yeah, context is key. We played a game as kids where if you looked at one of us with the ok sign, the one doing the sign got to punch you in the arm. It was joke. Even though this new origin is a bit of the tail wagging the dog (it started as a joke on 4chan), the ok sign has taken on the meaning of a white power sign in certain situations. Unfortunately, people have trawled old pics and attacked people for using nor…

> the ok sign has taken on the meaning of a white power sign in certain situations.

>> When done when posing with Steve Bannon it probably means white power sign.

When a no-kidding, self-admitted, non-LARPing, Stormfront-reading, Klan- or Nazi-party member says "Yeah we've been using the OK symbol for years" then I'll believe it.

But all I've ever seen about this is leftists of a certain type asserting that it's true, with some variation of "I know it's true because all my friends and thought leaders say it's true, and you can see yourself that such people as Steve Bannon use it, and people have even been fired for doing it. Definitely true. Your move, white-supremacy-denier!"

So, no. It's a conspiracy theory, in which denial of the conspiracy is yet more evidence of the conspiracy.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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So when we do get rid of presidential pardons? We've seen "an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president." ~Mitt Romney And we've seen pardons put up for sale.[0] Is the US a nation of laws and due process or a Banana Republic where anyone can be acquitted of anything? [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons...

Did you read the article? Are you opposed to the pardon of Davidson?

President Trump commuted the sentence of Jaime A. Davidson. This commutation is supported by Mr. Davidson’s family and friends, Alice Johnson, and numerous others. In 1993, Mr. Davidson was convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment in relation to the murder of an undercover officer. Notably, witnesses who testified against Mr. Davidson later recanted their testimony in sworn affidavits and further attested that Mr. Davidson had no involvement. Although Mr. Davidson has been incarcerated for nearly 29 years, the admitted shooter has already been released from prison.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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The white supremacy sign is a white power sign because white supremacists use it to signal each other. It is called a "dog whistle" because people like you cannot hear it accurately.

We can't let trolls and white supremacist steal the ok symbol. We must fight back. The problem is that whoever makes the the first step will get called a white supremacist, so nobody want to volunteer.

No, I'll volunteer. It's a stupid conspiracy theory, and I have nothing but contempt for it. I use it all the time, and always will, regardless of context or the presence of gullible idiots around me.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or you can use context instead of absolute judgment. When done under water in a scuba suit, it probably means ok. When done when posing with Steve Bannon it probably means white power sign.

Yeah, context is key. We played a game as kids where if you looked at one of us with the ok sign, the one doing the sign got to punch you in the arm. It was joke. Even though this new origin is a bit of the tail wagging the dog (it started as a joke on 4chan), the ok sign has taken on the meaning of a white power sign in certain situations. Unfortunately, people have trawled old pics and attacked people for using nor…

Wow, that game seems to be surprisingly common! It was played on my school in Munich, Germany.

The rules were: if you look through the loop, you are punched in the upper arm. The puncher has to draw a bull's eye first, then punch, then the recipient must say "thank you" and the puncher must reply "you're welcome" (of course in German, i.e. bitte, danke). Any deviation from the rules is punished by a punch, to be administered in accordance with aforementioned ceremony.

Where did you grow up?

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