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Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

#181

The fact that even fox news was onboard with pardoning Julian Assange and then he pardons Levandowski is... well ironic is an understatement. I am failing to find a word that encapsulates my feelings.

I'm not entirely sure that it was possible to pardon Assange as he hasn't been convicted with anything yet?

As in , I thought the extradition request was to be sent to USA for a trial.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

#182

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> barbaric rushed executions Source?

I shouldn't have assumed everyone knew about this. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/15/trump-admini... This story is especially sad. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/05/lisa-montgomer...

The BBC article linked in this thread is far more informative. But thanks.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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> barbaric rushed executions Source?

Think they're referring to this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55236260

Intersting, thanks.

Is this not just a coincidence of scheduling though? Or do courts normally schedule executions for presidential transition periods?

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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A. We did not know anything on Nov 3 B. There is a process in the US that involves state electors having their votes counted and certified and the new government installed C. No country in the world instantly swaps governments at election result time.

It's pretty swift in a number of European countries, days not weeks. Fact is the civil service is not being swapped, just the political leaders of the departments. Perfectly fine to just swap ministers in a matter of days.

The core of the issue is that the US president has way too much power and does replace a large number of civil service positions. "Just after the presidential election, a revised edition of the Plum Book is published, which lists over 9,000 federal civil service leadership and support political appointment positions which an incoming administration needs to review, and fill or confirm."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_presidential_transition

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Don't forget to have the additionally-pardoned Michael Liberty join the efforts to attract investors. Over $50 million defrauded [0][2] from investors, and it wasn't his first rodeo with the SEC[1]. [0]: https://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2018/lr24092.htm [1]: https://www.pressherald.com/2016/11/30/sec-charges-ex-maine-... [2]: https://www.pressherald.com/2018/04/02/liberty-in-sec-crossh...

...is a Presidential pardon final come the next Administration? Or has that not really been tested in court?

https://davidallengreen.com/2021/01/can-a-presidential-pardo... discusses — in 1869 one got rescinded because the original was never delivered (but according to the post that isn't binding).

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

#186

The fact that even fox news was onboard with pardoning Julian Assange and then he pardons Levandowski is... well ironic is an understatement. I am failing to find a word that encapsulates my feelings.

Trump isn't considered a Republican by any of the powerful people in the Republican Party, or most of its big traditional financial backers (the Kochs particularly dislike him). It's why people like Mitch McConnell turned on him when it was clear Trump's power was gone. It's why they did everything they could to prevent him from winning the party nomination in the first place. The other Republican candidates were very weak and Trump sensed that and proceeded to smash them one by one.

The comedy of it all, is that Trump running was merely an arrangement with his former pals the Clintons (arranged in a phone conversation with Bill Clinton prior to declaring [1]). He was supposed to just target and knock off Jeb Bush as a favor. The reality TV style name attack gimmick (low energy Jeb, sleepy Joe, etc) worked so well that it became clear there was a runway to the Presidency and he took it.

Trump is a populist opportunist narcissist, all in one. Party is irrelevant to him, he isn't a partisan at all. He would have happily run as a Democrat - which is what he was previously - if he could have gotten to the Presidency easier that way.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20150819083634/https://www.washi...

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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>kids in cages, wtf?!?) I'm sure you've heard this before, but Obama built the cages.

> I'm sure you've heard this before, but Obama built the cages. I'm sure you've heard this before, but Obama implemented policies to limit the necessity for their use, while the Trump Administration deliberately maximized their use.

Source?

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

#188
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The "ok" hand sign isn't a white power sign just because some people have decided it to be. It's meant ok since as long as anyone can remember. I'm not willing to accept I can't say okay now because some liberal thinkers have decided that that's now become racist. People need to lighten up a bit and not make everything an affront.

The white supremacy sign is a white power sign because white supremacists use it to signal each other. It is called a "dog whistle" because people like you cannot hear it accurately.

We can't let trolls and white supremacist steal the ok symbol. We must fight back. The problem is that whoever makes the the first step will get called a white supremacist, so nobody want to volunteer.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

#189
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Or you can use context instead of absolute judgment. When done under water in a scuba suit, it probably means ok. When done when posing with Steve Bannon it probably means white power sign.

Having researched the issue carefully [0] I would suggest there is an alternative symbolic interpretation. One that goes something like "our opponents believe anything they read on the internet". Even if it is used extensively as a political symbol, it doesn't represent white power. It represents a political sub-group disrespecting their opposition for being gullible. Insofar as it even could represent white power -…

So, you're saying it either means "white power" or "we're trolling people to think we mean 'white power'"?

As for white power not being associated with anything heinous, yeah "Hail victory" also sounds good. Who doesn't want victory?

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

#190

The fact that even fox news was onboard with pardoning Julian Assange and then he pardons Levandowski is... well ironic is an understatement. I am failing to find a word that encapsulates my feelings.

I'm not entirely sure that it was possible to pardon Assange as he hasn't been convicted with anything yet? As in , I thought the extradition request was to be sent to USA for a trial.

You can pardon people before they're convicted of anything.

Trump pardoned Steve Bannon for example and he has not yet been convicted (he has been charged). Assange has been charged with various things by the Feds, which is what Trump would pardon. The floated theory went that Trump could plausibly pardon himself as well, for any likely future charges.

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