Anthony Levandowski Pardoned • Hacker News Board

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by cannaceo » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 6:59 AM UTC

crescentfresh wrote: post #20

cannaceo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't think I'd seen Corvain mentioned on HN. He's actually a great guy and a hell of an entrepreneur. Without trying to take any credit for his release my team was involved in the process of raising awareness of his incarceration for the last year and got deeply involved in bringing his cannabis brand to the California market. We've been early-celebrating all week about his pending release. I'll also add that his c…

> bringing his cannabis brand to the California market Could you explain? I'm not following and when I search his story news articles said he opened a clothing store. What was his actual business and was it connected to cannabis?

Corvain was imprisoned for trafficking and had no legitimate cannabis business at that time.

Corvain's wife started 40tons with the help of a lot of industry folks in 2020. The effort was to bring cannabis revenue/profit back to support Corvain's two teenage daughters while he's incarcerated. That's the cannabis brand I'm referring to.

https://40tons.co/about/

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by ocdtrekkie » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 7:00 AM UTC

boolean wrote: post #2

> Mr. Levandowski has paid a significant price for his actions and plans to devote his talents to advance the public good. As a thief, he should be in prison. He hasn't paid any price. He's still a millionaire, will probably start another company and raise billions in next 3 years.

Not only this, but Mr. Levandowski has made it clear he thinks his car failing to cause the first self-driving fatality would mean they were behind.

The man believes manslaughter is the cost of doing business for innovation. He should be in prison for much more than he got.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by thro4234324 » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 7:00 AM UTC

Trump really is quite shameless.

Meanwhile, the US is illegally pursuing Assange, and is penalizing Snowden for following the very same values that the US ostensibly holds.

The alt-media is calling Trumpers as the new "Liberty movt.", yet they call for American hegemony on Asia and elsewhere, and their policy directions are equally counter-indicative. Liberty my ass.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by paxys » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 7:01 AM UTC

jmcguckin wrote: post #19

paxys wrote: post #8

> Stephen K. Bannon – President Trump granted a full pardon to Stephen Bannon. Prosecutors pursued Mr. Bannon with charges related to fraud stemming from his involvement in a political project. Mr. Bannon has been an important leader in the conservative movement and is known for his political acumen. This one is hilarious. The "political project" was raising money for a border wall via crowdfunding and putting it int…

You should recite the facts correctly. Supposedly, Bannon represented to the public that 100% of donated funds were going to build the wall. In fact, prosecuters allege that ‘hundreds of thousands’ were diverted to pay Banon’s personal bills. That’s out of 25 million raised.

What part of what I said was incorrect?

> Bannon and another defendant, Brian Kolfage, allegedly promised donors that the campaign, which raised more than $25 million, was "a volunteer organization" and that "100% of the funds raised ... will be used in the execution of our mission and purpose," according to the indictment.

> Instead, according to prosecutors, Bannon, through a nonprofit under his control, allegedly used more than $1 million from We Build the Wall to "secretly" pay Kolfage and cover hundreds of thousands of dollars in Bannon's personal expenses.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/steve-bannon-pardone...

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by theshrike79 » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 7:02 AM UTC

reducesuffering wrote: post #22

So when we do get rid of presidential pardons? We've seen "an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president." ~Mitt Romney And we've seen pardons put up for sale.[0] Is the US a nation of laws and due process or a Banana Republic where anyone can be acquitted of anything? [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons...

> So when we do get rid of presidential pardons?

Not an American, but I just learned a few days ago that a good deal of presidential pardons are used to give citizenship rights back to people who have already served their sentence - sometimes decades ago.

After the pardon they can actually vote and hold public office.

Maybe you should, you know, stop taking away people's rights after they're served their court-appointed sentence?

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by wrnr » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 7:03 AM UTC

Why so negative, a little bit of clemency even if people are guilty will do a great deal to help heal the nation. This list reads like an indictment of the justice system, life sentences for non violent drug offences, yikes. I'm glad for everyone, welcome back.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by chandra381 » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 7:03 AM UTC

Trump pardons former Uber executive Anthony Levandowski on the recommendation of a panel that includes Peter Thiel and Palmer Luckey.. (EDIT: Palmer Luckey) -> who famously caught on camera flashing a white supremacy sign in a photo with the conspiracy theorist Chuck Johnson and Steve Bannon (who was also pardoned today)- just hilarious levels of corruption all around

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by salawat » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 7:04 AM UTC

dvaun wrote: post #15

contemporary343 wrote: post #10

This is all so hilariously corrupt. I'm not sure I can even muster anger for this, just laughter. (I'll reserve the anger for the pandemic and this administration's callous, frankly criminal handling of it). (So Levandowski and Jared are going to launch a venture fund soon, right?)

Don't forget to have the additionally-pardoned Michael Liberty join the efforts to attract investors. Over $50 million defrauded [0][2] from investors, and it wasn't his first rodeo with the SEC[1]. [0]: https://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2018/lr24092.htm [1]: https://www.pressherald.com/2016/11/30/sec-charges-ex-maine-... [2]: https://www.pressherald.com/2018/04/02/liberty-in-sec-crossh...

...is a Presidential pardon final come the next Administration? Or has that not really been tested in court?

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by reducesuffering » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 7:04 AM UTC

theshrike79 wrote: post #35

reducesuffering wrote: post #22

So when we do get rid of presidential pardons? We've seen "an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president." ~Mitt Romney And we've seen pardons put up for sale.[0] Is the US a nation of laws and due process or a Banana Republic where anyone can be acquitted of anything? [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons...

> So when we do get rid of presidential pardons? Not an American, but I just learned a few days ago that a good deal of presidential pardons are used to give citizenship rights back to people who have already served their sentence - sometimes decades ago. After the pardon they can actually vote and hold public office. Maybe you should, you know, stop taking away people's rights after they're served their court-appoin…

That's a separate issue. Some states like CA have done what you suggest and are supported by the VP of the US and most of the Democratic party.[0]

[0]https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_17,_Voting_Ri...

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by avmich » Wed, Jan 20, 2021, 7:08 AM UTC

wrnr wrote: post #36

Why so negative, a little bit of clemency even if people are guilty will do a great deal to help heal the nation. This list reads like an indictment of the justice system, life sentences for non violent drug offences, yikes. I'm glad for everyone, welcome back.

> will do a great deal to help heal the nation

A counterpoint: Abraham Lincoln had some strong opinions about the events like on Jan. 6, and his opinions were not guided by an idea of "unity." Healing may involve some unpleasant medicine.