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Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by hulitu »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #32
boolean wrote: post #2

> Mr. Levandowski has paid a significant price for his actions and plans to devote his talents to advance the public good. As a thief, he should be in prison. He hasn't paid any price. He's still a millionaire, will probably start another company and raise billions in next 3 years.

Not only this, but Mr. Levandowski has made it clear he thinks his car failing to cause the first self-driving fatality would mean they were behind . The man believes manslaughter is the cost of doing business for innovation. He should be in prison for much more than he got.

> The man believes manslaughter is the cost of doing business for innovation. He should be in prison for much more than he got.

Evil scientist Boo Evil scientist Boo

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by hulitu »

reducesuffering wrote: post #22

So when we do get rid of presidential pardons? We've seen "an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president." ~Mitt Romney And we've seen pardons put up for sale.[0] Is the US a nation of laws and due process or a Banana Republic where anyone can be acquitted of anything? [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons...

> So when we do get rid of presidential pardons?

This sholdn't happen to a dog say dogs.

> We've seen "an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president." ~Mitt Romney

It's good to have friends.

> And we've seen pardons put up for sale.[0]

Free market at work.

> Is the US a nation of laws and due process or a Banana Republic where anyone can be acquitted of anything?

Taken into account that it uses it's military and secret service to promote a certain fruit company i will say the later is correct.

> [0]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons...

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by lordnacho »

renewiltord wrote: post #76
amatecha wrote: post #59

Issued on January 20th, 2021.... Didn't Joe Biden just win the popular vote with 51.3% on... November 3rd, 2020, over two months ago? Why does the US political system wait months to enact the peoples' will? I don't understand this at all.

A. We did not know anything on Nov 3 B. There is a process in the US that involves state electors having their votes counted and certified and the new government installed C. No country in the world instantly swaps governments at election result time.

It's pretty swift in a number of European countries, days not weeks.

Fact is the civil service is not being swapped, just the political leaders of the departments. Perfectly fine to just swap ministers in a matter of days.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by Veen »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #32
boolean wrote: post #2

> Mr. Levandowski has paid a significant price for his actions and plans to devote his talents to advance the public good. As a thief, he should be in prison. He hasn't paid any price. He's still a millionaire, will probably start another company and raise billions in next 3 years.

Not only this, but Mr. Levandowski has made it clear he thinks his car failing to cause the first self-driving fatality would mean they were behind . The man believes manslaughter is the cost of doing business for innovation. He should be in prison for much more than he got.

Although it might be tempting, you can’t really send people to prison for disagreeing with your ethics.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by mastermojo »

My knee jerk reaction to this is also to be upset, but if I try to view his sentence from a perspective of rehabilitation vs punitive action ...

His original sentence (6 months ago) was 18 months. I don't know if the extra 12 months here changes anything.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by kenneth »

Seems the comments here are mostly negative — saying his pardon is an example of corruption and that he should be in jail.

Personally, I think that the ability for gigantic corporations' ability to not only sue their former employees or influence justice to get them thrown in jail by the government is a much bigger problem.

And generally I feel like prison sentences for white-collar and non-violent crime is in almost all cases excessive.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by spacemanmatt »

kenneth wrote: post #80
bobsil1 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or powerful ones: https://twitter.com/rsingel/status/1351783622362030082

The "ok" hand sign isn't a white power sign just because some people have decided it to be. It's meant ok since as long as anyone can remember. I'm not willing to accept I can't say okay now because some liberal thinkers have decided that that's now become racist. People need to lighten up a bit and not make everything an affront.

The white supremacy sign is a white power sign because white supremacists use it to signal each other. It is called a "dog whistle" because people like you cannot hear it accurately.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

Veen wrote: post #84
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only this, but Mr. Levandowski has made it clear he thinks his car failing to cause the first self-driving fatality would mean they were behind . The man believes manslaughter is the cost of doing business for innovation. He should be in prison for much more than he got.

Although it might be tempting, you can’t really send people to prison for disagreeing with your ethics.

much imprisonment is based on just this, even if an action is required to send you on the road to prison your ethics are used as indicator of whether you should actually go there or not.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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Post by kazinator »

spacemanmatt wrote: post #87
kenneth wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "ok" hand sign isn't a white power sign just because some people have decided it to be. It's meant ok since as long as anyone can remember. I'm not willing to accept I can't say okay now because some liberal thinkers have decided that that's now become racist. People need to lighten up a bit and not make everything an affront.

The white supremacy sign is a white power sign because white supremacists use it to signal each other. It is called a "dog whistle" because people like you cannot hear it accurately.

Whoa there, Roofus; have a Milk-Bone of information:

"In 2017, users on the message-board site 4chan[40][41][42] aimed to convince the media and other people that the OK gesture was being used as a white power symbol. According to The Boston Globe, users on 4chan's /pol/ ("Politically Incorrect") board were instructed in February 2017 to "flood Twitter and other social media websites...claiming that the OK hand sign is a symbol of white supremacy," as part of a campaign dubbed "Operation O-KKK".[37]

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture

O-KKK? ... mmmmkay, whatever.

You've been taken for a ride ... a wild-eyed ride with your head sticking out of a rolled-down passenger window.

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