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Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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Re: Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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Post by jvreagan »

_y5hn wrote: post #152
jvreagan wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You just described both sides. Side a: 2016 US election was stolen. 2020 was fair and square. Side b: 2020 US election was stolen. 2016 election was fair and square. Seems that there are a small number of people who think a) both elections were stolen or b) both elections were fair and square. They are being drowned out by sides a and b. If you fit side a or b above, you might want to some logical thinking. Pretty si…

More like: 2016 US election had foreign propaganda interference (damn our algos weren't good enough!) 2021 Open violent attack on democratic process to certify president election.

2016 also had open violent attacks on democratic process to certify president election, remember? Riots, destruction of property in November and December 2016? Calls for electoral college voters to switch their votes. Ring a bell?

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Post by Darmody »

gkoberger wrote: post #173
Darmody wrote: post #168

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I don't think it's hard to argue that. When countries like China censor, what they do is make companies delete anything they don't like. Now it is the company directly who decides to censor which in my opinion is worse. Why worse? Because you don't get to elect those who run the company. In a democracy you have the chance to change the government but that can't be done with a private company. Now, when you have a few…

So you'd rather the current government make this decision? You know, the government run by a president who directly incited all this "hang mike pence" stuff, right from Twitter itself? While the rioting was happening, the president tweeted "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not th…

You're completely missing my point. Of course anyone with more than 2 neurons is on the side of "not lynching the VP". My point was that a company like Twitter should not censor people talking about the fact that rioters chanted "hang mike pence".

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Post by _y5hn »

jvreagan wrote: post #201
_y5hn wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like: 2016 US election had foreign propaganda interference (damn our algos weren't good enough!) 2021 Open violent attack on democratic process to certify president election.

2016 also had open violent attacks on democratic process to certify president election, remember? Riots, destruction of property in November and December 2016? Calls for electoral college voters to switch their votes. Ring a bell?

So all the lies have been a ploy to copy this setting?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2147684/violence-erupts-across...

Or to fulfill this "promise"?

Pompeo Promises 'A Smooth Transition To A Second Trump Administration'

https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/1...

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https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/chris-99178053752

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Post by Guvante »

feralimal wrote: post #143
shadowgovt wrote: post #130

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What is the benefit the governance structure derives from general misinformation on most topics? Governance is harder when people don't know things.

Think about it. If people have the wrong information, that means that they cannot respond meaningfully. If you are swimming in a world of lies, how will you give the correct answer? UPDATE/EDIT And, in other conspiracy news, I am unable to reply to comments below. "You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks." This will probably prevent me from replying for a few hours (last time it was 3 hours). Understandably…

You got caught by the spam filter dude. No conspiracy here.

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Post by maram »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #199
maram wrote: post #170

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> I think I’m smarter than the average person, and can discern the truth from multiple conflicting claims. But a little introspection shows me that no, this isn’t really true. I’m not hunting down original sources for everything I think I know, I’m mostly relying on gatekeepers (experts) to tell me what is true. The least thing Twitter could do is allow us to see who started a specific hashtag. Hashtags can be pushed…

Wouldn't this encourage false-flag hashtag squatting? Just figure out what your "enemies" are likely to hashtag, and set up some unpleasant accounts to use the tags before they do.

Who is the enemy here? The people or governments? Arab spring succeeded in Tunisia because real time news sharing was faster than state-sponsored-media. The same thing happened in Egypt.

>set up some unpleasant accounts to use the tags before they do.

That's what governments tried to do, but they failed, and were failing. Bots with aged accounts and Tweetdeck got better in 2015.

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Post by gkoberger »

Darmody wrote: post #202
gkoberger wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you'd rather the current government make this decision? You know, the government run by a president who directly incited all this "hang mike pence" stuff, right from Twitter itself? While the rioting was happening, the president tweeted "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not th…

You're completely missing my point. Of course anyone with more than 2 neurons is on the side of "not lynching the VP". My point was that a company like Twitter should not censor people talking about the fact that rioters chanted "hang mike pence".

I'm not missing it, I'm disagreeing.

You can't say a company removing content is something China would do. It's the opposite. In an authoritarian regime, Twitter would be forced to be in lock step with the government, and the opposite is happening now. Think of it as checks and balances.

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Post by falcolas »

rufus_foreman wrote: post #151
lazugod wrote: post #128

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I wouldn’t agree that Americans universally trust their military.

Gallup poll numbers are at https://news.gallup.com/poll/1597/confidence-institutions.as... . I don't know that "people" in the original argument equates to "universally", but the only institutions that a majority of people have either a "Great deal" or "Quite a lot" of trust in are the medical system (just barely, 51%), the military (72%), and small business (75%). So small business is trusted more than the military,…

Technically, they primarily recommend not chewing gum at all. The “9 out of 10 doctors agree the 10th is an idiot” is a meme.

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Post by vladTheInhaler »

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #146
vladTheInhaler wrote: post #119

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Can you give me an example of a story you believe is overtly "progressive"?

How about the story that gave serious airtime to the book “In Defense of Looting” [0], which as the title implies, wholeheartedly condoned the looting and rioting that occurred during the summer protests. [0] https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178...

First I would point out that the article start with:

"This story was updated on Sept. 1, 2020. The original version of this story, which is an interview with an author who holds strong political views and ideas, did not provide readers enough context for them to fully assess some of the controversial opinions discussed."

So they are clearly cognizant of the fact that the content is very controversial. I think it's a sensitive and important subject, and one that doesn't really get addressed in a serious, scholarly way. In some ways, it's a perfect example of the kind of heterodox research that conservatives have advocated for in universities and public forums. And it is the job of the media to try to communicate what ideas are out there.

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